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Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:08 am
by S&Wgrl
TexGalRK wrote:I currently carry a Taurus 709 slim in an Uncle Mikes holster quite comfortably. Love this thing... my husband does too.(He went and bought the same for himself.) I had carried my Bersa 380 a little bit, but wanted to carry at least a 9mm(besides my bersa is finicky about ammo and I never know when it won't like something.

) Carrying my Taurus 24/7 was kinda bulky and heavy in the purse, not to mention carrying it on my person was hard to conceal, so the Slim 9 was the way to go for me. As you can see I m partial to the Taurus. Only had good experiences with em. That's my 2 cents, hope it helps!
RK~

Thanks, I will check out those too!
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:49 am
by johncanfield
Be sure and handle an S&W M&P compact - DW and I immediately liked the way it felt in our hands, but it is a double stack and a little harder to conceal. It also felt great at the range.
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:52 am
by wgoforth
S&Wgrl wrote:TexGalRK wrote:I currently carry a Taurus 709 slim in an Uncle Mikes holster quite comfortably. Love this thing... my husband does too.(He went and bought the same for himself.) I had carried my Bersa 380 a little bit, but wanted to carry at least a 9mm(besides my bersa is finicky about ammo and I never know when it won't like something.

) Carrying my Taurus 24/7 was kinda bulky and heavy in the purse, not to mention carrying it on my person was hard to conceal, so the Slim 9 was the way to go for me. As you can see I m partial to the Taurus. Only had good experiences with em. That's my 2 cents, hope it helps!
RK~

Thanks, I will check out those too!
I had a 709, and was indeed a decent gun, esp for the price. I hated the trigger though. I found it to be long and gritty. I too have had good luck with Tauri's, even though many laugh about them, the 24/7 is an especially good gun.
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:06 pm
by S&Wgrl
Is it the Taurus that doesn't allow the slide to stay locked and open?
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:18 pm
by rcasady
love love love my p238 ... im just not a double action guy but theres alot to admire about these single stack 9's.
that being said if your not in a hurry u might wanna check this out ..
another member showed me this and now im wishing i had it
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductD ... treme.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; its a p238 but in 9mm !!
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:01 pm
by wgoforth
S&Wgrl wrote:Is it the Taurus that doesn't allow the slide to stay locked and open?
No, the Taurus locks back on emty. The Ruger LCP and Kel Tec P3AT do not. Bodyguard also does.
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:02 pm
by wgoforth
rcasady wrote:love love love my p238 ... im just not a double action guy but theres alot to admire about these single stack 9's.
that being said if your not in a hurry u might wanna check this out ..
another member showed me this and now im wishing i had it
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductD ... treme.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; its a p238 but in 9mm !!
Maybe I am misunderstanding....but the P238 issingle action.
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:14 pm
by rcasady
wgoforth wrote:rcasady wrote:love love love my p238 ... im just not a double action guy but theres alot to admire about these single stack 9's.
that being said if your not in a hurry u might wanna check this out ..
another member showed me this and now im wishing i had it
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductD ... treme.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; its a p238 but in 9mm !!
Maybe I am misunderstanding....but the P238 issingle action.
i see how that could have been read ....p238 is single action . i meant i dont like most of the compact 9's because they are usually double action with stiff trigger . to each his own ...
but i will surely own a pf9 by the end of the year just for the fun of it ...maybe a tool box gun
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:55 pm
by baseballguy2001
I've recently jumped on the .380 bandwagon myself. I recommend you take a look at the S&W Bodyguard .380. It has a built-in laser, but it also has decent sights too. It's a double action only semi auto, very thin, and very concealable. The trigger is fairly long, and can be stiff, but if it hits the fan, I doubt one would notice. The Bodyguard also has a slide safety, a feature not too many other mouse guns have. I practice my draw and snap the safety off for a smooth even motion. I mostly carry the Bodyguard in the summer, in the winter, (or what there is of it) I carry my G27 in .40. Quite a bit more punch than the average .380, but still a concealable weapon.
Just my .02
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:26 pm
by wgoforth
baseballguy2001 wrote:I've recently jumped on the .380 bandwagon myself. I recommend you take a look at the S&W Bodyguard .380. It has a built-in laser, but it also has decent sights too. It's a double action only semi auto, very thin, and very concealable. The trigger is fairly long, and can be stiff, but if it hits the fan, I doubt one would notice. The Bodyguard also has a slide safety, a feature not too many other mouse guns have. I practice my draw and snap the safety off for a smooth even motion. I mostly carry the Bodyguard in the summer, in the winter, (or what there is of it) I carry my G27 in .40. Quite a bit more punch than the average .380, but still a concealable weapon.
Just my .02
The BG is a nice gun, and has something none of the other pocketable guns have, and they don't even advertise the feature.... second strike capability. You get a bad/hard primer, you can pull the trigger again and most of the time they will fire on the second strike.
The laser is good to learn with, helps to learn how and where to aim, though in a true emergency self defense, you would be unlikely to be able to actuate it in time to really help. It does provide a good counter weight for under the barrel to reduce muzzle flip.
On the safety.... I'd leave it alone. It is flush and stiff and when you have the adrenaline dump, you lose fine motor skills and bigger chance of forgetting it or not being able to take it off. Since it is DAO safety not really needed anyway.
The Sig P238 does have an external safety, and being single action is a must. The LCP/TCP/P3AT/Body Guard guns are all double action with long, hard trigger pulls. Not needed. Glocks don't have safties for same reason.
Re: .380 question
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:37 pm
by wgoforth
BTW... some great reviews and comparisons of these smaller guns to be found at
http://www.mouseguns.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Be sure and look at the cool PDF chart of them on the left hand side "Pocket Gun Chart."
Re: .380 question
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:00 am
by Sandotex5
Strongly concur with the Sig P238 fans-- I love this gun! I also have tried various single stack 9mm's and currently own the Beretta Nano. I like the Nano better than any of the others (Solo, LC9, Kahrs) but even it doesn't carry as well or shoot as well as the P238 in my hands. I'm definitely eagerly awaiting the P938 because I agree with having more stopping power. Still, so far I'm much more likely to carry my P238 and shoot it with confidence. I know Sigs aren't cheap but if you're going to pay for something important I think it's worth it. Also, my wife can rack the P238 without problems. For what it's worth...
Re: .380 question
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:26 am
by wgoforth
Sandotex5 wrote:Strongly concur with the Sig P238 fans-- I love this gun! I also have tried various single stack 9mm's and currently own the Beretta Nano. I like the Nano better than any of the others (Solo, LC9, Kahrs) but even it doesn't carry as well or shoot as well as the P238 in my hands. I'm definitely eagerly awaiting the P938 because I agree with having more stopping power. Still, so far I'm much more likely to carry my P238 and shoot it with confidence. I know Sigs aren't cheap but if you're going to pay for something important I think it's worth it. Also, my wife can rack the P238 without problems. For what it's worth...
I am interested in holding the 938 in the flesh as well.... what I do know is the barrel is slightly longer, .4", and the grips are slightly wider to accomodate the 9mm. Since this P238 fits my hand well, I don't know what the diff will be in the wider grip on the 938. I know somewebsites discussing the 938 are actually showing pics of the 238. The 938 also has an external extractor.
Good comparisons of the two seen at
http://www.hausofguns.com/2012/01/23/th ... -sig-p238/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;