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Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:24 pm
by Keith B
fickman wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:Texas CHL's are completely exempt from the federal GFSZ restrictions regarding any schools in Texas. Doesn't matter what kind of gun or where you are.
But a non-CHLer, who is otherwise free to carry a long gun in Texas (visible or concealed; on their person or in their car). . . the GFSZ restriction would apply to them, even for long guns?

My understanding is "yes". If I'm right, then that is also important info for OP.
You are correct. It also applies to those carrying under the Motorist Protection Act in Texas.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:56 pm
by Jumping Frog
I would say "theoretically yes". Under the strict interpretation of the law, non-licensees cannot have a loaded firearm within 1000 feet. But under the real world, this is a federal law that is not being charged by local and state law enforcement, and ordinary citizens are not being charged. Heck over 90% of the urban/suburban population live within 1000 feet of a school, and it is literally impossible to drIve around in a car and comply with this stupid and misguided federal law.

From what I have read, the law is rarely -- VERY rarely -- enforced, and when someone is actually charged they are a criminal being charged for other crimes and the GFSZ is simply an add-on charge. For example, a drug dealer arrested by the DEA for peddling drugs near a school will also get the GFSZ charge tacked on.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:39 pm
by fickman
Jumping Frog wrote:I would say "theoretically yes". Under the strict interpretation of the law, non-licensees cannot have a loaded firearm within 1000 feet. But under the real world, this is a federal law that is not being charged by local and state law enforcement, and ordinary citizens are not being charged. Heck over 90% of the urban/suburban population live within 1000 feet of a school, and it is literally impossible to drIve around in a car and comply with this stupid and misguided federal law.

From what I have read, the law is rarely -- VERY rarely -- enforced, and when someone is actually charged they are a criminal being charged for other crimes and the GFSZ is simply an add-on charge. For example, a drug dealer arrested by the DEA for peddling drugs near a school will also get the GFSZ charge tacked on.
Good to know.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:19 am
by stash
I know you said you are going to transport your AR in the box but I wonder what kinda looks someone would get (if any) going through that Border Patrol check point in Sierra Blanca on I10 with it exposed?

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:00 am
by Purplehood
RioGrandeShooter wrote:Thanks.. I just found the TX laws on rifles/shotguns in the vehicle. They can be loaded and such..
That is what I thought. Wouldn't the MPA apply anyway?

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:37 am
by rm9792
No, the MPA is designed for handguns. Long guns are already legal.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:16 am
by Purplehood
rm9792 wrote:No, the MPA is designed for handguns. Long guns are already legal.
Learn something new every day!

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:37 am
by 74novaman
Purplehood wrote:
rm9792 wrote:No, the MPA is designed for handguns. Long guns are already legal.
Learn something new every day!
Here's the text of the actual bill:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person [he]
intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or
her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80 ... 01815F.HTM

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:28 pm
by kjolly
I was headed out to the rifle club a few weeks ago and had not bothered to sack up my 995 carbine which looks scary tactical and had it in the passenger seat of my truck.
Was stopped by a sherrifs deputy that was running a road block for a bycycle race. He didn't say anything or seem to care.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:58 pm
by tommyg
Does the MPA cover knives in a car???

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:03 pm
by 74novaman
tommyg wrote:Does the MPA cover knives in a car???
I answered this 2 posts up. MPA covers handguns, illegal knives and clubs.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:48 pm
by tommyg
sorry I missed your previous post

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:00 am
by wrinkles
stash wrote:I know you said you are going to transport your AR in the box but I wonder what kinda looks someone would get (if any) going through that Border Patrol check point in Sierra Blanca on I10 with it exposed?
They might give you some grief. My son was told by one of the BP agents at the Sierra Blanca checkpoint that it was illegal for him to carry a handgun in the car since he didn't have a CHL. My son told the guy, 'The gun is unloaded in a suite case in the trunk." the agent said doesn't matter it's still illegal. Agent asked to see the gun, my son told him he could see the gun but that it was not illegal to carry a handgun in the car loaded or not as long as it was concealed. PB agent wouldn't believe him, finally the agent said he would let my son go with a warning not to carry the gun anymore. :shock:

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:48 pm
by rm9792
Good time to request a supervisor to be present.

Re: Rifle transport without rifle case in rear of SUV.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:28 pm
by johnson0317
Amen. Also a good time to get out your iPhone and start the video rolling. Of course, that really gets them roiled...so who knows?