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harrycallahan wrote: However, I would unload the gun before handing it over.

I have not been disarmed either, but my plan, if asked to hand the gun over:

"Officer, with respect, I'm not going to touch that weapon. I will absolutely be cooperative and compliant with your demands, but for my own safety I will not at any time reach toward that weapon.... You are welcome to take it from me, ask me to get out of the vehicle and remove it from me, or any other option that you choose, but under no circumstances will I reach toward it...."

It's just too easy to get shot for "reaching" for a gun.

The first thing I do in a traffic stop is turn on the recording device on my phone and lock the screen. One of these days, I'm going to get a small automatic video camera in the car... I've had too many run-ins that were not caught on tape.

longtooth wrote:In class I teach students that have been informed they will be disarmed for safety purposes, to simply say, Yes sir, officer, how do you want to proceed?

After being told by an officer he wants to disarm you I can see nothing but problems at best & trouble at worse telling or suggesting to an officer that he should leave it holstered.

My oppinion from my yrs of experience & YMMV.

Certainly making a speech will help you with any police officer.

Abraham wrote:Certainly making a speech will help you with any police officer.

I posted about my experience being disarmed and it was clear the officer wasn't doing it for anybody's safety. I didn't argue. I let him show his true colors. And like an elephant, I will never forget.

We discussed this in our CHL class and i agree, you simply ask how you would like me to proceed, but the question did come up, if the gun is not on your person but in your vehicle and the LEO wants to remove it, you are basically consenting for them to search your vehicle by allowing them to retrieve your weapon. Not that CHL people have anything to hide, but there is a 4th amendment to the Constitution as well.

Anyone had any experience with this?

I've had no direct experience and it will open up some visibility into areas that they *might* not otherwise be able to see.
However, if the gun is in the glove box, it's not going to give them legal right to open the center console... IE - it doesn't grant consent to search the entire vehicle.
You are giving up area *around* the location of the firearm.

There are certainly disadvantages in traffic stops to having a CHL.

unsainted wrote:but there is a 4th amendment to the Constitution as well.

Vehicles are treated very differently from homes under 4A.

cb1000rider wrote:. . .The first thing I do in a traffic stop is turn on the recording device on my phone and lock the screen. One of these days, I'm going to get a small automatic video camera in the car... I've had too many run-ins that were not caught on tape.

Nothing towards you, but I would be checking out what I was doing that was causing all of the "many run-ins." I would want to know if there was something I could change that might stop all of the interaction with the police.

The only time I was ever disarmed was in the parking lot of our neighborhood playground - while my daughter was on the swings. It went like this:

Deputy: "Hey, you still have that Glock you want to sell? I'd like to take a look at it sometime."
Me: "Sure, I've got it on right now. I'd show you, but I'm not allowed to unconceal in public - but then again, you're a LEO, so you can disarm me anytime you want."
Deputy: "Sure, that would be great."

And then, I squatted low inside the open driver's side door of his cruiser, unholstered, cleared it, and handed it over.

Maybe that's not the typical LEO disarming encounter, but that's the only one I have to share.