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lfinsr wrote:So... instead of alienating the entire CHL community, they create another entity whose sole business is selling alcohol and put up a 51% sign. I'd be happier if they were just up front about it and put up a 30.06 sign. At least I'd know they don't want my money.

Larry

I doubt very seriously that they do it just to keep out CHL'ers. There have been businesses that use food companies to do their catering and concessions for longer than I have been alive (over half a century). I know our company uses a food company in our cafeterias and stadiums, art galleries, museums, etc do the same thing. Just common practice, but that throws the monkey wrench into it when that company holds the liquor license and makes more than 51% from alcohol sales.

Piney wrote:Could one assume that the whole facility would fall under the 51% license/signage because one can carry their purchased beverage around the facility ?

You would need to assume yes. It IS possible that a specific area in the building was defined when the license was issued, but more than likely the company will request the whole building so alcohol can be served and consumed anywhere in the location. The only way to know for sure what portion of the building or whole building has been defined is to contact TABC and ask them to tell you. There is no way for us to do it from the Internet. So, my advice is error on the side of caution, and if you see a 51% sign or the location is listed as 51%, then assume it is the whole building until you know differently.

Keith B wrote:

Piney wrote:Could one assume that the whole facility would fall under the 51% license/signage because one can carry their purchased beverage around the facility ?

You would need to assume yes. It IS possible that a specific area in the building was defined when the license was issued, but more than likely the company will request the whole building so alcohol can be served and consumed anywhere in the location. The only way to know for sure what portion of the building or whole building has been defined is to contact TABC and ask them to tell you. There is no way for us to do it from the Internet. So, my advice is error on the side of caution, and if you see a 51% sign or the location is listed as 51%, then assume it is the whole building until you know differently.

If there's no physical barrier with signage saying something like 'no alcoholic beverages beyond this point'. Then assume the whole building is 51% & off limits for concealed carry.

Keith B wrote:

lfinsr wrote:So... instead of alienating the entire CHL community, they create another entity whose sole business is selling alcohol and put up a 51% sign. I'd be happier if they were just up front about it and put up a 30.06 sign. At least I'd know they don't want my money.

Larry

I doubt very seriously that they do it just to keep out CHL'ers. There have been businesses that use food companies to do their catering and concessions for longer than I have been alive (over half a century). I know our company uses a food company in our cafeterias and stadiums, art galleries, museums, etc do the same thing. Just common practice, but that throws the monkey wrench into it when that company holds the liquor license and makes more than 51% from alcohol sales.

I wouldn't put it past anyone, particularly large organizations with "barracks lawyers" as members, to connive to post 51% just to keep CHLers out.

What I hope is that the State Fair never hears about this. Just one "independent contractor" selling 4 ounce beers near the "Budweiser Stage" could make the entire fairgrounds 51%.

TexasCajun wrote: If there's no physical barrier with signage saying something like 'no alcoholic beverages beyond this point'. Then assume the whole building is 51% & off limits for concealed carry.

You could probably use that as a guideline, but it may not be a legal border. It will totally depend on the area defined on the license when the TABC application was approved. So, again, can't tell without confirmation by TABC