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Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:21 pm
by BigGuy
I was in Fort Worth this weekend and visited a restaurant we usually go to when in town. (Esperanza's. I highly recommend.) My BUG is a Ruger LCP that I carry in a pocket holster in my right hip pocket. I was wearing some new bluejeans. These don't feel as heavy as I'm used to and I worried about the BUG printing. In a last minute decision, I left it in the car.
I did still carry my EDC (Ruger SR9c) in the Deep Conceal Ultra shoulder holster.
I did think about the Newtown shooting as I was making up my mind about the BUG. I was glad to see a sign on the door about the UNLICENSED carry of a hand gun blah blah. I always read those as "CHL Welcome."

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:03 am
by Dragonfighter
The Annoyed Man wrote:<SNIP>
No, I do nothing differently....except to be thankful that I live in a state where CHL is easily possible. Constitutional carry would be even better. I know that most people simply aren't that observant, and I take the normal precautions to carry discreetly.....without being obsessive about it. And frankly, I don't really care what someone else thinks about that. I'm not going to stick my head in the sand because they have chosen to do so themselves. I'm a sheepdog, not a sheep, and the sheep are often wary of the sheepdog because they have teeth like wolves. Furthermore, if such a person "over-reacted" and attacked me, why on earth would I want to be disarmed? I carry a gun EXACTLY for the reason that people are unhinged.
:iagree: As an anecdote, I was shopping last year, maybe two years ago now and had two oops moments. One was as I got out of the car, my fat self couldn't quite slide out without the seat belt engaging the Glock and dumping it on the pavement with a sickening clatter. My wife knew immediately what happened and there were people everywhere. I casually bent over, picked it up and reholstered and no one so much as gave me a second look.

The second was my shirt got tucked in behind the grip and though I normally do a cursory check when I get out of the vehicle I did not. It was after loading a cart full of merchandise in the trunk and opening the driver's door I looked down and noticed I had been exposed the entire time. No one had given me anything other than a smiling nod, and no one acted as if they noticed, or if they did they didn't care.

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:12 am
by Dave2
Dragonfighter wrote:The second was my shirt got tucked in behind the grip and though I normally do a cursory check when I get out of the vehicle I did not. It was after loading a cart full of merchandise in the trunk and opening the driver's door I looked down and noticed I had been exposed the entire time. No one had given me anything other than a smiling nod, and no one acted as if they noticed, or if they did they didn't care.
That just reinforces what my cop neighbor told me when I asked him about printing: "you could carry your gun around in your hand, and most people wouldn't notice.

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:37 am
by mojo84
When I first started carrying, I was like most and very conscious of my weapon. As time has passed, I've become so comfortable I don't even realize have I my gun on. I dress in all different manner. Sometimes use a cover garment such as a sport coat, someone I go with an untucked shirt and sometimes I tuck my shirt in my Crossbreed Supertuck.

Well, this happened a few weeks ago and I found it interesting. I was wearing a sportcoat and when I got into my vehicle to drive to town to run sime errands and go to a meeting, I took my sportcoat offand hung it in the back. When I got to town, I got out at several of my stops and went in to take care of my business and went to Walmart and pumped gas. I then got back into my vehicle and as I was driving to San Antonio, I realized I did all that without pouting my sportcoat on.

While it did concern me at first when I realized what I had done, I was also interested to note that not one person said anything or even looked at me funny that I noticed. My conclusion is that most people don't notice and the ones that do, few are alarmed. This event is one reason I don't see open carry as a big negative issue and I think the more people see the good guys carrying, the les sensitive the general population will become to people legally and responsibly carrying weapons. I am also a firm believer in campus carry at all levels.

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:57 am
by DocRhino
Add a vote for 'the sheeple don't notice'.
On a temp assignment, I lived in downtown Charlotte, NC since it allowed me to walk to work. There were resturants and place to eat all within walking distance. No carry at work so the walk to and from work was unarmed but, NC has open carry. After I got home and changed, I put an XD45 Compact on my hip for my movement around town. NC Concealed carry is odd and since OC was available, though not my preference, I thought I see how it went.

Drumroll... In the course of 2+ years, I had three conversations about the fact I had a pistol on my hip.
The first was one with the property managers. I was into to see those gals 6 or more times before one of them said, "When did you start carrying a gun?" They had never noticed it.
The second was the off duty police officer at the Harris Teeter where I shopped. On my third or fourth trip into the store (all of them with polite nods of recognition) I was half way into my shopping when he came up to me said I couldn't carry in the store. I asked why and he said there was a 'no guns' sign at the door. We went to look. Nope. He scratches his head and says, "Hmm. Thought there was...." I continue shopping, he goes back to standing by the front door.
Third time was in Target when a little boy asked me if I was a policeman. Nope, just a guy carrying his gun. Mommy smiles and says she freaked when her husband broached OC. We discussed my experience.

I will say that the bums... I mean residentially challenged fellows in downtown rarely approched me for a handout....

Printing- nope, not on my radar.

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:19 pm
by CoffeeNut
It's both kind of frightening how oblivious "sheeple" are to everyday things are but then again I can't necessicarily complain. Thanks for all of the responses folks!

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:35 pm
by Oldgringo
Think about it for a minute, I have a medium leatherman on my left hip and my compact 1911 on my right hip usually under an untucked shirt. Both of which could pass for a cell phone or some such other gizmo to the casual observer. Next time you're out look for cell phones and knive/tools on men's belts, they're pretty common and no one takes much, if any, notice.

Back to the question: "No".

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:10 pm
by TexasCajun
No more caution regarding concealment than normal. I will say that the issues of last week did turn up my SA radar a bit more, though. I even considered stowing the Beretta Nano in favor of my Glock 17 for my wife's company/family Christmas party on Saturday (she works for her brother-in-law). I normally carry the deeper-concealing Nano to family functions because I tend to be active with the kiddos and they're normally all-day affairs. Ultimately, I decided to not alter my normal operations other than perhaps being a little more vigilant.

Re: A little more cautious with "printing" now?

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:13 pm
by knotquiteawake
The Annoyed Man wrote: No, I do nothing differently....except to be thankful that I live in a state where CHL is easily possible.
This is what I keep telling my friends who are still in CA. I am so happy to live in a state that makes it easy for an upstanding citizen to concealed carry so I can protect my family. I keep telling them "when seconds count the police are only minutes away"