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Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:41 am
by JJVP
mojo84 wrote:Wish this one was the one that was passed out of committee.
That bill is no good. It will not change anything regarding campus carry. The law as it stands today allows colleges to allow concealed carry if they want, but none does. The new law will allow colleges to opt out, and most likely all will opt out. Bottom line, no change from today, no campus carry.
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:45 am
by mojo84
That's why I posted I wish HB3218 was the one that was passed out of committee.
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:30 am
by RoyGBiv
I see that
HB 3218 is scheduled for public hearing on 18-April. Good news.!!
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... ill=HB3218" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I had a brief handshake and chat with my local House rep last night and after I thanked him for sponsoring HB 706 (campus carry) I asked him to lend his name and support to HB 3218. He wasn't aware of this bill so I gave him the brief synopses and he said he'd look into it. I mentioned that Mr. Springers name was looking pretty lonely at the top of the Bill. He got a chuckle out of that. Hopefully it made it a bit more memorable. I'll call his office on Monday to follow up.
Unfortunately I am not able to travel to Austin on Thursday to attend the public meeting....
Please consider helping to pack the hall if you can make the trip. Of all the 2A bills this session, this is THE one I'm most excited about.

Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:41 am
by lrpettit
RoyGBiv wrote:I see that
HB 3218 is scheduled for public hearing on 18-April. Good news.!!
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... ill=HB3218" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I had a brief handshake and chat with my local House rep last night and after I thanked him for sponsoring HB 706 (campus carry) I asked him to lend his name and support to HB 3218. He wasn't aware of this bill so I gave him the brief synopses and he said he'd look into it. I mentioned that Mr. Springers name was looking pretty lonely at the top of the Bill. He got a chuckle out of that. Hopefully it made it a bit more memorable. I'll call his office on Monday to follow up.
Unfortunately I am not able to travel to Austin on Thursday to attend the public meeting....
Please consider helping to pack the hall if you can make the trip. Of all the 2A bills this session, this is THE one I'm most excited about.

How much difference does it really make if people are in the hall? Is it worthwhile taking a day off of work?

Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:45 am
by RHenriksen
lrpettit wrote:
How much difference does it really make if people are in the hall? Is it worthwhile taking a day off of work?

Let me paint three different scenarios for you:
Hall is packed with 100 people, 85 speak in favor of HB3218, 15 are against
Hall is packed with 100 people, 15 speak in favor of HB3218, 85 are against
Hall has 15 people, all of whom speak against HB3218
Which one would you want to see happening?
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:52 am
by lrpettit
RHenriksen wrote:lrpettit wrote:
How much difference does it really make if people are in the hall? Is it worthwhile taking a day off of work?

Let me paint three different scenarios for you:
Hall is packed with 100 people, 85 speak in favor of HB3218, 15 are against
Hall is packed with 100 people, 15 speak in favor of HB3218, 85 are against
Hall has 15 people, all of whom speak against HB3218
Which one would you want to see happening?
I'm a novice to this? Do we need to request to speak ahead of time? Do we know what time the hearing is?
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:45 am
by RoyGBiv
lrpettit wrote:I'm a novice to this? Do we need to request to speak ahead of time? Do we know what time the hearing is?
If you click the link I posted above, you'll get to the main page for the bill...
Then click the committee link...
Then on the committee page click the "meetings" link (towards the bottom)
Then locate the meeting date and pull up the hearing notice/agenda.
Here's the agenda for the 18th. Looks like a 2 hour meeting starting at 8:AM, and HB3218 is scheduled towards the end of the session.
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 808001.HTM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
PLEASE attend if at all possible.

Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:06 am
by RoyGBiv
bump
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:35 pm
by Natesac
Wow, very nice work Charles. I'm a little late to the game on this one, however I'm ON IT!
I'd love to see the crime statistics comparing CHL's to Texas law enforcement. Great stuff. Keep it up guys. Calling my rep now.
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:53 pm
by tornado
Natesac wrote:Wow, very nice work Charles. I'm a little late to the game on this one, however I'm ON IT!
I'd love to see the crime statistics comparing CHL's to Texas law enforcement. Great stuff. Keep it up guys. Calling my rep now.
"Texas CHLs are almost sixteen times less likely to commit a crime than is the general public and seven times less likely to commit a crime as are Texas peace officers."
Source:
https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... ry-conduct" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (aka, the first post in this thread

)
(Unless you were asking for specifics, which Mr. Cotton has said in other discussions that he doesn't want to provide because they could be misused to attack LEOs, IIRC.)
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:28 pm
by Natesac
tornado wrote:Natesac wrote:Wow, very nice work Charles. I'm a little late to the game on this one, however I'm ON IT!
I'd love to see the crime statistics comparing CHL's to Texas law enforcement. Great stuff. Keep it up guys. Calling my rep now.
"Texas CHLs are almost sixteen times less likely to commit a crime than is the general public and seven times less likely to commit a crime as are Texas peace officers."
Source:
https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.com/ ... ry-conduct" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (aka, the first post in this thread

)
(Unless you were asking for specifics, which Mr. Cotton has said in other discussions that he doesn't want to provide because they could be misused to attack LEOs, IIRC.)
Indeed I was looking for more specific numbers relating to CHL's, Law enforcement officers, and crime. I understand if that information is too sensitive to post or link. I was just curious.
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:38 pm
by tornado
More in-depth info in this long thread:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17975" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:42 pm
by JKTex
2318 is up. Is it me, or does what he's readin show someone doesn't understand things like government meetings and other places not prohibited unless posted?? I guess it may be moot or maybe not. I just hope it's not going the way I kind of think it is, which doesn't appear to be what the bill is....maybe.
Maybe I need to just keep listening......

Re: Rally Behind HB3218
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:44 pm
by JKTex
Ok, Charles is making sense for them.
