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mojo84 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I like the idea of being part of the sheriff's posse. I just can't get ours to deputize me.

I would like for a chl to be able to carry the same place as leos. Not really interested in additional authority associated with it though. Too much potential liability.

I don't know if it's like in the old westerns where the sheriff can have you raise your right hand and throw you a tin shield.

Darn. Maybe that's why he hasn't done it yet.

Sometimes I think that some people still have some romantic notion that being a ranger, sheriff or deputy means that all you have to do is be able to ride a horse and be good with a gun.

In all seriousness, Texas already has an "Enhanced CHL" It's called TECLOSE certification. If you want to be a cop, go to The Police Academy, and be a cop.

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I like the idea of being part of the sheriff's posse. I just can't get ours to deputize me.

I would like for a chl to be able to carry the same place as leos. Not really interested in additional authority associated with it though. Too much potential liability.

I don't know if it's like in the old westerns where the sheriff can have you raise your right hand and throw you a tin shield.

Darn. Maybe that's why he hasn't done it yet.

Sometimes I think that some people still have some romantic notion that being a ranger, sheriff or deputy means that all you have to do is be able to ride a horse and be good with a gun.

You mean.......

jbarn wrote:

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I like the idea of being part of the sheriff's posse. I just can't get ours to deputize me.

I would like for a chl to be able to carry the same place as leos. Not really interested in additional authority associated with it though. Too much potential liability.

I don't know if it's like in the old westerns where the sheriff can have you raise your right hand and throw you a tin shield.

Darn. Maybe that's why he hasn't done it yet.

Sometimes I think that some people still have some romantic notion that being a ranger, sheriff or deputy means that all you have to do is be able to ride a horse and be good with a gun.

You mean.......

I am afraid so.

rp_photo wrote:I was thinking to myself today about the concept of Enhanced CHL that would afford privileges somewhere between Peace Officer and regular CHL. Extended privledges could include things such as being able to carry in off-limits places like bars and schools

They tried that during the last session. The legislators were going to vote themselves an enhanced CHL and keep the rest of us the same.

FML

MoJo wrote:In all seriousness, Texas already has an "Enhanced CHL" It's called TECLOSE certification. If you want to be a cop, go to The Police Academy, and be a cop.

There it is!

tomtexan wrote:

MoJo wrote:In all seriousness, Texas already has an "Enhanced CHL" It's called TECLOSE certification. If you want to be a cop, go to The Police Academy, and be a cop.

There it is!

I hope most Texans don't think I should work for the government if I want to enjoy the entire Bill of Rights.

FML

Robert*PPS wrote:I haven't given any thought to something like that, but I can see some issues with it right off the bat. Property rights being usurped, as mentioned above. Also, think of how the CHL badgers would act if they had an ECHL? They be wearing capes and masks and making up funny names for themselves....

Just a word about private property rights. I see a vast difference between you and I controlling access to our property and a business or other facility opened to the public forbidding me from entering because of an otherwise legal activity. In the meantime, these places allow every other flea scratchin' dog to enter without so much as a "how do you do?". I think if its open to the general public, especially without a reasonable security apparatus in place, you should lose your "right" to restrict CHL carry on your property;that is if you even knew who it was that was carrying.

Dragonfighter wrote:

Robert*PPS wrote:I haven't given any thought to something like that, but I can see some issues with it right off the bat. Property rights being usurped, as mentioned above. Also, think of how the CHL badgers would act if they had an ECHL? They be wearing capes and masks and making up funny names for themselves....

Just a word about private property rights. I see a vast difference between you and I controlling access to our property and a business or other facility opened to the public forbidding me from entering because of an otherwise legal activity. In the meantime, these places allow every other flea scratchin' dog to enter without so much as a "how do you do?". I think if its open to the general public, especially without a reasonable security apparatus in place, you should lose your "right" to restrict CHL carry on your property;that is if you even knew who it was that was carrying.

Just curious; do you own a business?

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I like the idea of being part of the sheriff's posse. I just can't get ours to deputize me.

I would like for a chl to be able to carry the same place as leos. Not really interested in additional authority associated with it though. Too much potential liability.

I don't know if it's like in the old westerns where the sheriff can have you raise your right hand and throw you a tin shield.

Ahhh, the posse comitatus!

The ECHL to me sounds like a solution for which there is no known problem, like swine flu vaccine or something.

JALLEN wrote:

WildBill wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I like the idea of being part of the sheriff's posse. I just can't get ours to deputize me.

I would like for a chl to be able to carry the same place as leos. Not really interested in additional authority associated with it though. Too much potential liability.

I don't know if it's like in the old westerns where the sheriff can have you raise your right hand and throw you a tin shield.

Ahhh, the posse comitatus!

The ECHL to me sounds like a solution for which there is no known problem, like swine flu vaccine or something.

The unintended effects of the unnecessary solution can often lead to severe complications.

I have thought this to myself for a long time. After seeing posts like this and others that seem like the folks that post them are after police type authority because they have a CHL, There are times I am more concerned about a CHL holder than I am a bad guy...
After being on this board for 6-7 years, I would think twice about pulling my weapon in a public place unless I personally was in danger.
I remind folks, the CHL laws were written to allow us to carry for personal protection.

dac1842 wrote:I have thought this to myself for a long time. After seeing posts like this and others that seem like the folks that post them are after police type authority because they have a CHL, There are times I am more concerned about a CHL holder than I am a bad guy...
After being on this board for 6-7 years, I would think twice about pulling my weapon in a public place unless I personally was in danger.
I remind folks, the CHL laws were written to allow us to carry for personal protection.

I have no desire to be a cop but the CHL law clearly was also written to include defending a third party.

jmra wrote:

dac1842 wrote:I have thought this to myself for a long time. After seeing posts like this and others that seem like the folks that post them are after police type authority because they have a CHL, There are times I am more concerned about a CHL holder than I am a bad guy...
After being on this board for 6-7 years, I would think twice about pulling my weapon in a public place unless I personally was in danger.
I remind folks, the CHL laws were written to allow us to carry for personal protection.

I have no desire to be a cop but the CHL law clearly was also written to include defending a third party.

The use of force laws have always allowed defense of a third person, and have nothing to do, really, with the CHL laws. The use of force laws are the same for CHL holders and those who do not hold one. Same for cops, too. (LEOs do have a section on escapees, etc.)

The CHL laws simply allow you to carry, and do not address the purpose.