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Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:49 am
by Beiruty
jmra wrote:big454 wrote:Just stating an opinion here but I also don't think once you are open carrying it's so bad to carry a Texas handgun license identifier that might put the public and law enforcement at ease .

:~)
Break out the CHL badges

Why make fun of any gun related question? Do we need to lose a gun carrying member of the community be an anti?
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:54 am
by jmra
Beiruty wrote:jmra wrote:big454 wrote:Just stating an opinion here but I also don't think once you are open carrying it's so bad to carry a Texas handgun license identifier that might put the public and law enforcement at ease .

:~)
Break out the CHL badges

Why make fun of any gun related question? Do we need to lose a gun carrying member of the community be an anti?
I have no idea what that means.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:02 am
by Abraham
Without being unkind, angered or sarcastic to the new guy idea: I don't like the thought of prominently displaying my concealed carry license for any reason.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:49 am
by big454
We are only talking about "open carry" right? Concealed carry I think would be different especially from a tactical standpoint . No I don't think a badge is a good idea as an identifier in open carry situations but some symbol maybe ? A badge could be mistaken for law enforcement.

Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:25 pm
by Scott in Houston
I think that those who open carry will be surprised at how oblivious the average person is.
I think 9 out of 10 won't even notice the gun in the first place.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:04 pm
by CleverNickname
big454 wrote:Just stating an opinion here but I also don't think once you are open carrying it's so bad to carry a Texas handgun license identifier that might put the public and law enforcement at ease .

:~)
1. You're assuming that someone who's not a CHL licensee knows what a CHL looks like.
2. You're assuming that someone who does know what a CHL looks like will be able to tell it's a real, valid CHL when it's inside the license holder, from dozens of feet away. Even if they're holding it in their hand, they won't know it's valid for sure unless they're LE and run the license number.
I mean, there's no law saying you *can't* carry your CHL in a badge holder if you really feel like it, but I don't think it will solve any problems (which may or may not exist in the first place).
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:40 pm
by Javier730
If a bad guy does manage to read your address, he now knows where you live. He knows you probably have firearms at home. He knows your not at home at the moment. The guy can call his buddies and they can steal your belongings while one is watching you.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:53 pm
by Javier730
EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:This is a joke, right? As bad and silly of an idea I believe a CHL badge is, this is much worse. If you do manage to stop a robbery or a bad guy, he will know where you live. I hope your kidding.
How? Anyone who wants to know your address is going to have to get closer than any BG should be able to unless he beats you. I don't really see any benefit but the negativity is just over the top.
And what stops a BG from doing just that? Constructive criticism not negativity. The OP posted to get peoples opinions and thats what he is getting. If you want to use your concealed handgun license to open carry fine, but I dont think having your personal information out for everyone to see is a good idea.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:43 pm
by EEllis
Javier730 wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:This is a joke, right? As bad and silly of an idea I believe a CHL badge is, this is much worse. If you do manage to stop a robbery or a bad guy, he will know where you live. I hope your kidding.
How? Anyone who wants to know your address is going to have to get closer than any BG should be able to unless he beats you. I don't really see any benefit but the negativity is just over the top.
And what stops a BG from doing just that? Constructive criticism not negativity. The OP posted to get peoples opinions and thats what he is getting. If you want to use your concealed handgun license to open carry fine, but I dont think having your personal information out for everyone to see is a good idea.
how would anyone do that without you knowing? If you just let them then they can take your wallet out of your pocket just as easy. I mean you may not like wearing an ID but that a badguy will know where you live is not a real reason against it. I can public records you plate number and in 30 seconds get your address. Don't want BG's to know about your guns then don't OC. Pretending they can read the tiny printing on your ID is just silly.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:47 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:This is a joke, right? As bad and silly of an idea I believe a CHL badge is, this is much worse. If you do manage to stop a robbery or a bad guy, he will know where you live. I hope your kidding.
How? Anyone who wants to know your address is going to have to get closer than any BG should be able to unless he beats you. I don't really see any benefit but the negativity is just over the top.
And what stops a BG from doing just that? Constructive criticism not negativity. The OP posted to get peoples opinions and thats what he is getting. If you want to use your concealed handgun license to open carry fine, but I dont think having your personal information out for everyone to see is a good idea.
how would anyone do that without you knowing? If you just let them then they can take your wallet out of your pocket just as easy. I mean you may not like wearing an ID but that a badguy will know where you live is not a real reason against it. I can public records you plate number and in 30 seconds get your address. Don't want BG's to know about your guns then don't OC. Pretending they can read the tiny printing on your ID is just silly.
Depending upon proximity, age, vision, there's nothing silly about it. I've read various id tags people were wearing and my eyes are far from young. I could also hold my cell phone by my side and shoot a photo of a CHL on a belt or holster with the flash turned off and no one would know.
Chas.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:58 pm
by ShootDontTalk
Charles L. Cotton wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:This is a joke, right? As bad and silly of an idea I believe a CHL badge is, this is much worse. If you do manage to stop a robbery or a bad guy, he will know where you live. I hope your kidding.
How? Anyone who wants to know your address is going to have to get closer than any BG should be able to unless he beats you. I don't really see any benefit but the negativity is just over the top.
And what stops a BG from doing just that? Constructive criticism not negativity. The OP posted to get peoples opinions and thats what he is getting. If you want to use your concealed handgun license to open carry fine, but I dont think having your personal information out for everyone to see is a good idea.
how would anyone do that without you knowing? If you just let them then they can take your wallet out of your pocket just as easy. I mean you may not like wearing an ID but that a badguy will know where you live is not a real reason against it. I can public records you plate number and in 30 seconds get your address. Don't want BG's to know about your guns then don't OC. Pretending they can read the tiny printing on your ID is just silly.
Depending upon proximity, age, vision, there's nothing silly about it. I've read various id tags people were wearing and my eyes are far from young.
Chas.
Yup.
You'd be surprised what you can glean from security clearance ID's when standing in line.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:17 pm
by Javier730
Charles L. Cotton wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:This is a joke, right? As bad and silly of an idea I believe a CHL badge is, this is much worse. If you do manage to stop a robbery or a bad guy, he will know where you live. I hope your kidding.
How? Anyone who wants to know your address is going to have to get closer than any BG should be able to unless he beats you. I don't really see any benefit but the negativity is just over the top.
And what stops a BG from doing just that? Constructive criticism not negativity. The OP posted to get peoples opinions and thats what he is getting. If you want to use your concealed handgun license to open carry fine, but I dont think having your personal information out for everyone to see is a good idea.
how would anyone do that without you knowing? If you just let them then they can take your wallet out of your pocket just as easy. I mean you may not like wearing an ID but that a badguy will know where you live is not a real reason against it. I can public records you plate number and in 30 seconds get your address. Don't want BG's to know about your guns then don't OC. Pretending they can read the tiny printing on your ID is just silly.
Depending upon proximity, age, vision, there's nothing silly about it. I've read various id tags people were wearing and my eyes are far from young. I could also hold my cell phone by my side and shoot a photo of a CHL on a belt or holster with the flash turned off and no one would know.
Chas.

Reading the address would not be a problem at the distance of standing in line at a grocery store for someone with good vision.
About running the plates, you can run my plates to get my address but nothing about me says I have firearms at home for bad guys to steal. Open carrying and/or having a chl for a necklace does.
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:38 pm
by Beiruty
ShootDontTalk wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:EEllis wrote:Javier730 wrote:This is a joke, right? As bad and silly of an idea I believe a CHL badge is, this is much worse. If you do manage to stop a robbery or a bad guy, he will know where you live. I hope your kidding.
How? Anyone who wants to know your address is going to have to get closer than any BG should be able to unless he beats you. I don't really see any benefit but the negativity is just over the top.
And what stops a BG from doing just that? Constructive criticism not negativity. The OP posted to get peoples opinions and thats what he is getting. If you want to use your concealed handgun license to open carry fine, but I dont think having your personal information out for everyone to see is a good idea.
how would anyone do that without you knowing? If you just let them then they can take your wallet out of your pocket just as easy. I mean you may not like wearing an ID but that a badguy will know where you live is not a real reason against it. I can public records you plate number and in 30 seconds get your address. Don't want BG's to know about your guns then don't OC. Pretending they can read the tiny printing on your ID is just silly.
Depending upon proximity, age, vision, there's nothing silly about it. I've read various id tags people were wearing and my eyes are far from young.
Chas.
Yup.
You'd be surprised what you can glean from security clearance ID's when standing in line.
Why bother? Chinese would distribute this information for free.

Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:59 pm
by C-dub
The previous picture posted wasn't from Blazzing Saddles, but the line was in the movie mocking The Sierra Madre.
Here's the Blazzing Saddles one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwprS_L6tg[/video]
Re: Open Carry - License visible to the public as well
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:35 pm
by texas-sig
Personally I won't open carry. Why would I give some idiot the temptation or even the idea of him/her to try and take my weapon away. Why would I place myself in a situation where I might now have to use my weapon on that idiot. The element of surprise should be just that, surprise.