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jed wrote:
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Back to the topic, I have no problem with someone carrying in my house because if they are in my house or on my place, I know them very well.

There it is and conversely, I can't imagine being invited, at my age, to any house where I and my antics, attitudes and foibles are unknown. That said, I'll probably not carry past my vehicle for the sake of MY comfort unless I fear there are scoundrels on the guest list.

If you polled 100 female realtors or designers, etc., that are in people's homes, I'd estimate they carry into the homes of others at ten times the rate of HVAC repair folks, as an example. My wife can't invite them into our house more than once without getting into that discussion. I don't ask, and if someone doesn't ask me, I don't volunteer. I also sit in the driveway at my brother in law's house rather than go in, because they did ask me not to carry. Made Christmas much more bearable now that I don't go :)

nonleg wrote:If you polled 100 female realtors or designers, etc., that are in people's homes, I'd estimate they carry into the homes of others at ten times the rate of HVAC repair folks, as an example. My wife can't invite them into our house more than once without getting into that discussion. I don't ask, and if someone doesn't ask me, I don't volunteer. I also sit in the driveway at my brother in law's house rather than go in, because they did ask me not to carry. Made Christmas much more bearable now that I don't go :)

I'm sorry, you married into a family like that. I got lucky in that, although my inlaws, were dyed in the wool Democrats, they had realized their rights were being eroded, and are now much more right leaning. They still have not gone as far as getting their LTC, they do keep firearms readily available in their home, and are supportive of me carrying in their home, OC or CC.
Some people have to be shown, and I hope your in laws don't have to pay the ultimate price before they see the light. JMHO

Legally, yes, unless you receive notice otherwise.


On the subject of manners:
"A car is useless in New York, essential everywhere else. The same with good manners." ― Mignon McLaughlin
"Savages we call them, because their manners differ from ours, which we think the perfection of civility; they think the same of theirs." ― Benjamin Franklin

nonleg wrote:If you polled 100 female realtors or designers, etc., that are in people's homes, I'd estimate they carry into the homes of others at ten times the rate of HVAC repair folks, as an example. My wife can't invite them into our house more than once without getting into that discussion. I don't ask, and if someone doesn't ask me, I don't volunteer. I also sit in the driveway at my brother in law's house rather than go in, because they did ask me not to carry. Made Christmas much more bearable now that I don't go :)

My nephew in DFW real estate business says that just about all the realtors he knows, male and female, conceal carry when showing homes.

Oldgringo wrote:Silliness! Guns notwithstanding, if you are uncomfortable and/or fear for your life, or the life of your companion/s, why would you accept the invitation in the first place?

I agree with Olbill.

Thank you. I like people to know where i stand before there's a misunderstanding.

And concealed is concealed until it isn't. If I invite you to my house and you ask, it's not a problem.

If you presume, you may not be invited back.

OlBill wrote: If I invite you to my house and you ask, it's not a problem.

If you presume, you may not be invited back.

Your post is curious to me.

My opinion only... You should assume anyone/everyone is armed and only invite people you trust into your home!

As for guests, I think you should make your wishes known at the invite if you mind them carrying. Don't forget that anyone coming to your home, has to get there... do you expect them to travel unarmed to your home? or to leave weapon in a vehicle, more susceptible to theft?

The majority of my guests are armed... and honestly, I take some comfort in that.

flechero wrote:

OlBill wrote: If I invite you to my house and you ask, it's not a problem.

If you presume, you may not be invited back.

Your post is curious to me.

My opinion only... You should assume anyone/everyone is armed and only invite people you trust into your home!

As for guests, I think you should make your wishes known at the invite if you mind them carrying. Don't forget that anyone coming to your home, has to get there... do you expect them to travel unarmed to your home? or to leave weapon in a vehicle, more susceptible to theft?

The majority of my guests are armed... and honestly, I take some comfort in that.

Neither our friends/hosts nor do we live in areas where our vehicles and persons are subject to invasion, thank Goodness.

This is what happens when people conflate the meanings of "can" and "may".

Certainly you CAN carry into a neighbor's home - assuming you are physically able to do so.

However, your neighbor might decide that you MAY NOT carry into his home - no matter your physical ability to do so.

As a general thing though, I carry into the homes of friends and neighbors unless I am specifically told not to. (Nobody has yet told me not to.) If it is the first time, and I don't know how that person feels about it, I'll conceal the gun. They would have no way of knowing unless they asked me if I was carrying, and I don't give them a reason to ask. But for instance, I have open-carried into my LifeGroup leader's home for meetings any number of times. I know that he is a gun owner and both he and his wife have valid LTCs, but they also never (or rarely) carry a gun. I've never asked him if it was OK, and he's never mentioned it to me. I'm pretty certain that if it bothered him, he'd tell me. But when we used to meet at my house, I open carried then too, so it wouldn't have been a surprise to him when I showed up at his house with a gun on my hip. If he had asked me not to do it, I would have probably honored his request.

warnmar10 wrote:I carry concealed into 5-8 homes every business day. The subject has never come up. I practice don't ask/don't tell.

It sounds to me as though you are entering homes on business matters, not as a social guest. Business relationships and social relationships are different. In social situations, I do not carry into other people's homes unless I have reason to know they would be OK with it. So far, family members are the only people I have known would be OK with it.

My behavior is based not on law but on my perception of etiquette. Others will act differently, which is fine. The law is a baseline for conduct but not necessarily the aspirational limit.

A wise and venerated sage of this forum once stated that concealed carry is a lot like underwear. It's nobody's business and in polite company it's not a topic for discussion. I don't discuss what I'm carrying nor if I'm carrying with most people any more than I'm apt to discuss boxers briefs or colors of my undergarments. Asking someone's permission to carry into their home just isn't going to be a conversation that I'm willing to get into.

Most people I know probably assume I carry sometimes, or at least once in a while. If they brought up the subject of whether or not I was carrying I would not give an answer directly. If asked not to carry I would likely comply.

I don't carry if there are small kids in the home. Especially clingy ones.

Liberty wrote:It's nobody's business and in polite company it's not a topic for discussion. I don't discuss what I'm carrying nor if I'm carrying with most people any more than I'm apt to discuss boxers briefs or colors of my undergarments.

I agree that concealed carry should be a matter of, to coin a phrase, "don't ask, don't tell."

flechero wrote:

OlBill wrote: If I invite you to my house and you ask, it's not a problem.

If you presume, you may not be invited back.

Your post is curious to me.

My opinion only... You should assume anyone/everyone is armed and only invite people you trust into your home!

As for guests, I think you should make your wishes known at the invite if you mind them carrying. Don't forget that anyone coming to your home, has to get there... do you expect them to travel unarmed to your home? or to leave weapon in a vehicle, more susceptible to theft?

The majority of my guests are armed... and honestly, I take some comfort in that.

You seem to think I would uninvite them. Not so.

I am simply saying I do not presume.

What if your skills are not up to my standards. For example you come into my house with a $7 Wal-Mart holster?

Or worse yet...


A Glock!

Liberty wrote:A wise and venerated sage of this forum once stated that concealed carry is a lot like underwear. It's nobody's business and in polite company it's not a topic for discussion. I don't discuss what I'm carrying nor if I'm carrying with most people any more than I'm apt to discuss boxers briefs or colors of my undergarments. Asking someone's permission to carry into their home just isn't going to be a conversation that I'm willing to get into.

Most people I know probably assume I carry sometimes, or at least once in a while. If they brought up the subject of whether or not I was carrying I would not give an answer directly. If asked not to carry I would likely comply.

Wisdom.

I understand KLB's point, although I don't agree. I guess it boils down to whether or not you think that carry of a firearm is poor ettiquette. For me, it is poor ettiquette if I have been specifically asked not to, and I do it anyway. I always have a very sharp knife concealed in my pocket. Am I supposed to leave that in the car too? If not, why not? That's kind of where I'm coming from with concealed-carrying a firearm in someone else's home.

OlBill wrote:

flechero wrote:

OlBill wrote: If I invite you to my house and you ask, it's not a problem.

If you presume, you may not be invited back.

Your post is curious to me.

My opinion only... You should assume anyone/everyone is armed and only invite people you trust into your home!

As for guests, I think you should make your wishes known at the invite if you mind them carrying. Don't forget that anyone coming to your home, has to get there... do you expect them to travel unarmed to your home? or to leave weapon in a vehicle, more susceptible to theft?

The majority of my guests are armed... and honestly, I take some comfort in that.

You seem to think I would uninvite them. Not so.

I am simply saying I do not presume.

What if your skills are not up to my standards. For example you come into my house with a $7 Wal-Mart holster?

Or worse yet...


A Glock!

Ha! No glock or one size fits all holsters here.