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Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church attacked 16 shot breaking

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:39 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
imkopaka:
Having an LCP on you certainly beats having something in your bride's purse,
but consider this:

I don't know your personal preference for church attire, but myself, I always wear a sport jacket
or suit jacket to church. This allows me to carry 2 pistols: my Ruger SR9C, 17 + 1, in an OWB holster
on my right hip, as well as my XDS45, 5 + 1, in my right front pants pocket.

With this setup I have 24 rounds on me, and could hand off one of the pistols to a friend if something
went bad at church.

I would suggest to any and all that wearing a sport jacket or suit jacket will allow you to greatly increase
your round count & caliber during church services.

Now if I could just convince my LTC gal who sits near to me to get over herself and bring her Colt wheelgun
every week, instead of feeling "funny" about church carry. She knows it's legal. Sheesh. :-)

SIA

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:49 pm
by carlson1
Just because someone has a LTC and carries DOES NOT mean they know how to respond during an active shooter event. I doubt even half of LTCers have had the training to respond.

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:52 pm
by Lynyrd
I'm sick to my stomach. My first thoughts were who would want to kill Christians? Was it racist, or religious persecution? After thinking a bit, it really doesn't matter. Whatever the motivation innocent lives were ended, and I wish there had a been someone there who could have took this scumbag down the moment he showed his gun.

My God grant peace and comfort to the victims families.

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:59 pm
by mojo84
Not sure how accurate this is so consider the source. Reporting killer's name is Devin Patrick Kelley.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-pat ... rch-killer

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church attacked 16 shot breaking

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:59 pm
by The Annoyed Man
anygunanywhere wrote:Rep Vicente Gonzalez just said on CNN the shooter’s name is Sam Hyde.

Idiots interviewing an idiot.
Sam Hyde is an Internet meme, and Gonzalez totally fell for it. What an idiot. Someone should tell him the shooter’s real name is Leroy Jenkins, just to see if he repeats that nonsense too.

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:01 pm
by bblhd672
philip964 wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -fire.html

Full combat gear. Said to be not from around there.
14 year old pastors daughter murdered.

I am devistated that this has occurred.

I do not understand the evil in men's hearts.
Republicans will join Democrats in new common sense laws restricting “combat gear.”

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:09 pm
by CoffeeNut
CBS is reporting the shooter is a veteran of the Air Force...

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:16 pm
by CoffeeNut
CoffeeNut wrote:CBS is reporting the shooter is a veteran of the Air Force...
Recent reporting has him Court Martialed in 2014 and dishonorably discharged.

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:24 pm
by mojo84
Given the type of separation from the military, wouldn't it be illegal for him to own a gun?

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church attacked 16 shot breaking

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:27 pm
by NotRPB
Keith B wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:Rep Vicente Gonzalez just said on CNN the shooter’s name is Sam Hyde.

Idiots interviewing an idiot.
Never trust any shooting report that says the shooter was Sam Hyde. It's a hoax name. https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/sa ... .nqP0bAPDG

https://www.mediaite.com/online/congres ... -sam-hyde/
same with the FakeNews HOAX Samir Al-Hajeed name >> used in both Las Vegas and today's http://www.smobserved.com/story/2017/11 ... /3188.html
@NBCNews

.@PeteWilliamsNBC: Law enforcement officials identify gunman in Texas shooting as 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley

https://t.co/rbelCiVLFW
on scene are @zhedrickTV and @RSantosTV
https://twitter.com/RSantosTV/with_replies
https://twitter.com/zhedrickTV/with_replies
another reporter
https://twitter.com/CamillaR_TV/with_replies

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:27 pm
by parabelum
mojo84 wrote:Not sure how accurate this is so consider the source. Reporting killer's name is Devin Patrick Kelley.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-pat ... rch-killer

I saw that too. Antifa?

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:28 pm
by sjfcontrol
Fox News says killer is Devin Patrick Kelley

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:30 pm
by CoffeeNut
mojo84 wrote:Given the type of separation from the military, wouldn't it be illegal for him to own a gun?
If he was actually convicted at the Court Martial, which it sounds like he was, then I do believe it is illegal. A court martial conviction is the same as a felony conviction.

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:31 pm
by NotRPB
sjfcontrol wrote:Fox News says killer is Devin Patrick Kelley
correct
@NBCNews

.@PeteWilliamsNBC: Law enforcement officials identify gunman in Texas shooting as 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley from comal county
Law enforcement officials identified the gunman on Sunday evening as Devin Patrick Kelley, age 26, of neighboring Comal County. Officials were preparing to search his home. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/se ... d_nn_tw_ma

Re: TX: Sutherland Springs church 27 dead 20 injured in mass shooting

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:31 pm
by CoffeeNut
Witness on CBS that gave first aid, reports that someone inside the church returned fire and continued firing as the shooter got into his truck, shattering his window.

Its a witness report so you know how those go but he seemed extremely credible and he moved in to render immediate assistance.