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That is correct.locke_n_load wrote:So under the law now, for a teacher to carry in a school, they just need their LTC and permission from the school/district right? The school safety program is just an additional certification they can get if they or the school wanted or required them to have it, right?
Yeah, that’s true. You’re right.locke_n_load wrote:Make the requirements too stringent, and you won't have many volunteers. Just a thought.AJSully421 wrote:I am a licensed Level 3 Commissioned Security Guard, Level 4 Personal Protection Officer (Body Guard) and the Executive Officer of a Security Company, and a LTC holder.
I say let's do it.
Whatever it takes... require retention holsters, not allow OC, require to pass a MMPI psych test like a Level 4 bodyguard has to, but let's open up law abiding citizens to be able to carry in all schools one way or another.
You might also add an exemption for a licensed Level 4 since they have done a psych eval already. Just a thought.
Correct, but if the person is providing any function that comes within the Private Security Act, then the volunteer must comply with the Act. The purpose of my bill is to extend the exemption to schools and not just churches.locke_n_load wrote:So under the law now, for a teacher to carry in a school, they just need their LTC and permission from the school/district right? The school safety program is just an additional certification they can get if they or the school wanted or required them to have it, right?
Maybe so, but with this legislation in place you can beat the school districts over the head with it next time some psycho shoots up a school, the parents of the victims can sue the district for failing to take protective meaures!RoyGBiv wrote:I'm certainly in favor of Charles' proposal, but the likelihood of school districts welcoming armed volunteers is, I'm betting, miniscule.
We protect our banks, celebrities, and politicians with guns. We protect our children with… signs.RoyGBiv wrote:I'm certainly in favor of Charles' proposal, but the likelihood of school districts welcoming armed volunteers is, I'm betting, miniscule.
Parents who are unwilling to help protect their children with armed guards at school are indoctrinated sheep and need to be bluntly dealt with by using the tools of the left, “Why do you want our children unprotected and murdered by madmen?” “Why do you hate your children?” “You’re deplorable and unredeemable for clinging to false belief that signs protect your children from harm.”1911 Raptor wrote:I agree as well but I think the problem will be parents. It’s funny (not really) that parents will have no problem walking in and doing business at banks, courts, malls, or anywhere else that has armed security without so much as a wimper. Hey put armed security in outlet schools to protect our most precious resource and they completely come unhinged.RoyGBiv wrote:I'm certainly in favor of Charles' proposal, but the likelihood of school districts welcoming armed volunteers is, I'm betting, miniscule.
Just read comments on articles about the recent shooting. These folks actually think and believe that the continued failed policies regarding guns in schools needs to be expanded to combat the problem. Most parents and others just become irrational when it comes to schools and guns. Unless guns are used to protect money or objects they can’t see the forest for the trees when it comes to schools. They don’t understand the Sheepdog and view it as a threat instead of the good guy. I feel there will need to be a significant effort on educating the public about why security is needed to protect our most precious resource much in the same way that we protect banks from getting robbed. It will be an uphill battle but it is one I fully support.
That will be addressed in the bill. As I said earlier, politics and personal opinions will not be elevated above protecting schools/kids.RoyGBiv wrote:I'm certainly in favor of Charles' proposal, but the likelihood of school districts welcoming armed volunteers is, I'm betting, miniscule.