Re: MO: Armed man arrested at Walmart.
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Maybe he like the others did some talking on social media. I am also wanting to know more.
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It still doesn't mention his real intentions.philip964 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pm https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9685741/w ... n-el-paso/
Being refered to as a gun nut.
And there is the problem. Technically he did nothing wrong except maybe if the da wants to charge him with disturbing the peace or something similar. It’s a fine line between stupidity and criminality. I am REALLY surprised the guy didn’t wind up ventilated! If he had been I wouldn’t have lost sleep over societies loss to the greater good. Certainly not helping calm the situation any.03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:30 pmIt still doesn't mention his real intentions.philip964 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pm https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9685741/w ... n-el-paso/
Being refered to as a gun nut.
The arrested him for making a terroristic threat, but as of yet has not been officially charged. Below is the lowest level charge:Syntyr wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 pmAnd there is the problem. Technically he did nothing wrong except maybe if the da wants to charge him with disturbing the peace or something similar. It’s a fine line between stupidity and criminality. I am REALLY surprised the guy didn’t wind up ventilated! If he had been I wouldn’t have lost sleep over societies loss to the greater good. Certainly not helping calm the situation any.03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:30 pmIt still doesn't mention his real intentions.philip964 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pm https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9685741/w ... n-el-paso/
Being refered to as a gun nut.
As to the question up post I am 99.9 percent sure I would have ran and gotten me and my family out of there.
As for the guy drawing on him, the threat was perceived by the people in the store, and the manager evacuated the store by pulling the fire alarm. The off-duty firefighter had every reason to believe the threat was there and valid, and would be justified in threatening use of deadly force by drawing down on the guy.574.125. Making a terrorist threat, third degree — penalty. — 1. A person commits the offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree if he or she, with criminal negligence with regard to the risk of causing the evacuation, quarantine or closure of any portion of a building, inhabitable structure, place of assembly or facility of transportation, knowingly:
(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life; or
(2) Communicates a knowingly false report of an incident or condition involving danger to life; or
(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life.
2. The offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.
3. No offense is committed under this section by a person acting in good faith with the purpose to prevent harm.
IANAL but, given recent events, I'd like to think I'd do what the fireman did while calling 911 and clearly identifying myself and the situation. I would not appreciate getting shot by an over-anxious LE responder.Keith B wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:07 pmThe arrested him for making a terroristic threat, but as of yet has not been officially charged. Below is the lowest level charge:Syntyr wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 pmAnd there is the problem. Technically he did nothing wrong except maybe if the da wants to charge him with disturbing the peace or something similar. It’s a fine line between stupidity and criminality. I am REALLY surprised the guy didn’t wind up ventilated! If he had been I wouldn’t have lost sleep over societies loss to the greater good. Certainly not helping calm the situation any.03Lightningrocks wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:30 pmIt still doesn't mention his real intentions.philip964 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pm https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9685741/w ... n-el-paso/
Being refered to as a gun nut.
As to the question up post I am 99.9 percent sure I would have ran and gotten me and my family out of there.
As for the guy drawing on him, the threat was perceived by the people in the store, and the manager evacuated the store by pulling the fire alarm. The off-duty firefighter had every reason to believe the threat was there and valid, and would be justified in threatening use of deadly force by drawing down on the guy.574.125. Making a terrorist threat, third degree — penalty. — 1. A person commits the offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree if he or she, with criminal negligence with regard to the risk of causing the evacuation, quarantine or closure of any portion of a building, inhabitable structure, place of assembly or facility of transportation, knowingly:
(1) Communicates an express or implied threat to cause an incident or condition involving danger to life; or
(2) Communicates a knowingly false report of an incident or condition involving danger to life; or
(3) Causes a false belief or fear that an incident has occurred or that a condition exists involving danger to life.
2. The offense of making a terrorist threat in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.
3. No offense is committed under this section by a person acting in good faith with the purpose to prevent harm.
Exactly!Soccerdad1995 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:34 pm I agree that the guy was an idiot. My first thought is he reminded me of some people we have here in Texas that belong to a 3 letter group and like to carry AR’s in public just to get a reaction.