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Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:51 am
by Flightmare
rtschl wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:00 am
This will be interesting. I don't think any rational person believes that most of the officers that day should still be cops and many were negligent, especially with so many in leadership positions on scene. Some were held back from reports that I remember. But the interesting part will be the Supreme Court's ruling that states police have no constitutional duty to protect individual citizens from harm, except when in custody. If found guilty, it will surely be appealed on those grounds.
The only way I can see a court "splitting the baby" would be to say that while officers have no constitutional duty to protect individual citizens from harm that are not in custody, there COULD be something about preventing OTHERS from rendering aid. I dunno. I'm no lawyer.
Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:56 am
by BigGuy
I'm amazed at how many people think it's the Government's responsibility to keep citizens safe. So many of them will look at you like you've grown a third eye when you try to explain that the Government's responsibility is to keep you free enough to keep your and your safe.
Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:52 pm
by philip964
BigGuy wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:56 am
I'm amazed at how many people think it's the Government's responsibility to keep citizens safe. So many of them will look at you like you've grown a third eye when you try to explain that the Government's responsibility is to keep you free enough to keep your and your safe.
And when the government illegally restricts your freedom so that you cannot keep your self safe? Or when agents of the government physically prevent you from saving your loved one who is in harms way?
Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:15 pm
by philip964
https://www.click2houston.com/news/2026 ... ol-attack/
Uvalde officer found not guilty in his actions during the mass shooting. Sounds like he had a pretty smart group of attorneys defending him. Pointed out repeatedly why was this the only officer on trial for an entire departments failure.
Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2026 8:37 am
by RPBrown
I can see arguments on both sides of this case. Was he morally bound to do something? Absolutely!! But legally bound to? Not so much that I can find even though he took an oath to uphold and protect.
I would doubt seriously that he could ever get another job in law enforcement. And as angry as some of the parents are, he may need to watch his back from now on
Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2026 7:04 pm
by carlson1
I think he should have been fired (along with the rest) for not taking action, but not charged with a crime. I am not for sure how you go about proving who had the opportunity to stop the killer.
Re: Uvalde School shooting
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2026 1:56 pm
by philip964
My understanding they physically stopped parents for attempting to rescue their children.
My understanding they physically stopped an armed police officer from rescuing his wife who was alive and had called him. She died. They took his gun.
My understanding there was a continuous window wall along the long side of the classroom.
My understanding they spent a great deal of time looking for a key to the classroom door. It was unlocked the whole time.
They never have told me where the kid who worked at Burger King got the money to buy rifles I can’t afford.
A great tragedy.