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Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:56 pm
by jester
Maybe Las Vegas is like Chicago. "The policeman isn't there to create disorder. The policeman is there to preserve disorder."
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:42 am
by Charles L. Cotton
jester wrote:Maybe Las Vegas is like Chicago. "The policeman isn't there to create disorder. The policeman is there to preserve disorder."
Off topic I realize, but I'm curious. Why do you have a copyright symbol in your signature line?
Chas.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:10 pm
by Beiruty
Charles L. Cotton wrote:jester wrote:Maybe Las Vegas is like Chicago. "The policeman isn't there to create disorder. The policeman is there to preserve disorder."
Off topic I realize, but I'm curious. Why do you have a copyright symbol in your signature line?
Chas.
He is a jester, most likely joking.

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:01 pm
by WildBill
Bill Scott, Erik's father posted an article questioning the handling of the security video from the scene.
http://erikbscott.com/blog/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:20 pm
by seamusTX
WildBill wrote:Who will go to jail for suppressing and/or altering evidence that is absolutely critical to exposing the truth about Erik Scott’s brutal slaying?
We don't seem to have a <snork> emoticon.
Tom Sawyer did not have enough whitewash for this job, and even Stonewall Jackson didn't have enough rocks.
- Jim
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:41 am
by Purplehood
Charles L. Cotton wrote:jester wrote:Maybe Las Vegas is like Chicago. "The policeman isn't there to create disorder. The policeman is there to preserve disorder."
Off topic I realize, but I'm curious. Why do you have a copyright symbol in your signature line?
Chas.
I am guessing that it is because of his Avatar showing Copyrighted items.
EDIT:
On the topic of the Fathers letter regarding the cover-up by Metro and Costco and his assertion that the company stock is going to tank, I think he is overly optimistic. The average Costco shopper is just like millions of other apathetic Americans that are not going to care about what happened there since it didn't happen to them.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:37 am
by gregthehand
I'm guessing the reason why they sent the video data to another crime lab is to avoid accusations that they covered something up to protect their own intrests. This is why often times small police agencies around Texas will call in the Texas Rangers to investigate one of their own. Also I have seen them use Federal Forensic labs over local or state. Again to avoid any accusations of tampering.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:47 am
by 92f-fan
One article I read said that Costco ins required the video to be stored in 2 places - One off site ...
If thats true
Why havent they just used that copy ?
Hard drive recovery is very expensive but very reliable - They should be able to recover the video, IF thats the goal
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:05 am
by Excaliber
92f-fan wrote:One article I read said that Costco ins required the video to be stored in 2 places - One off site ...
If thats true
Why havent they just used that copy ?
Hard drive recovery is very expensive but very reliable - They should be able to recover the video, IF thats the goal
They could easily have copied the relevant video onto a CD or portable hard drive with the on site equipment at the Costco store if they wanted to. This would have eliminated the issue with trying to find the relevant data without the system's database that indexes stored video to time and camera stamps as it appears they're now trying to do.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:05 am
by Rex B
I wrote to Costco:
Note this message was submitted through the costco.com web site customer suggestion page on 08/24/2010 11:25:46 PST
As a Costco member, I am troubled by the recent shooting death of Erik Scott at a Costco in Las Vegas recently.
There are unanswered questions. It appears that Costco management is withholding information from the public.
I chose Costco because your corporate culture agreed with much of the way I conduct my affairs.
This episode appears to be contrary to both.
Costco should immediately release the 911 recordings and the surveillance video to the public.
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Reply
Dear [me],
We appreciate you taking the time to email Costco Wholesale.
Your feedback has been forwarded to the Executives for their review. Thank you for taking the time to share your comments with us.
Thank you,
Beth
Costco Wholesale Corporation
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:17 am
by seamusTX
Costco doesn't control the 911 recordings, and the cops confiscated the hard drive of their video system. I see rivers of whitewash coming from the police department.
The only response that you are going to get, if any, will be along the lines of
This is a legal matter that is being handled by our counsel.
I work for a big company, and the company has an explicit policy that only a few officially designated people can speak on behalf of the company. Anyone else running his mouth or sending unauthorized e-mail is going to leave skid marks as he is thrown out.
- Jim
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:31 am
by Rex B
I didn't expect any sort of answer.
I know they have to err on the side of caution for legal and PR reasons.
But they do have decisions to make, and a little input from customers might help them make the right ones.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:40 am
by Hoi Polloi
If they get enough pressure from customers and stockholders, they can put political and social pressure on others who can make things happen. While it won't be a direct cause and effect of telling them to release them and them doing it, it can play a significant role in the eventual release.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:50 am
by seamusTX
Rex B wrote:I didn't expect any sort of answer.
I know they have to err on the side of caution for legal and PR reasons.
But they do have decisions to make, and a little input from customers might help them make the right ones.
I agree with you.
Costco and the cops are trying to bury this incident. It needs to be kept front and center. Mr. Scott's parents seem capable of that. The phrase "you messed with the wrong Marine" comes to mind, except he was army.
- Jim
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:00 pm
by Oldgringo
seamusTX wrote:
Costco and the cops are trying to bury this incident. It needs to be kept front and center. Mr. Scott's parents seem capable of that. The phrase "you messed with the wrong Marine" comes to mind, except he was army.
- Jim
It's not only the cops and Costco that want this incident to go away. Any and all who derive income from tourism in Vegas want it to go away. That would also include any media that receives advertising money to promote the place.