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Syntyr wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:42 am

AndyC1911 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:39 am Actors' Equity Safety Tips:

https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/ ... -firearms/



Note that it's under the section "Resources for Producers"...

And there it is. Apparently, these rules were not being followed.

Excellent find Andy. Baldwin is guilty.

I believe he is.

However, I'm going to (unsurprisingly) predict that - because Baldwin is a major anti-gun darling of the Left - they'll work a way to protect him from any criminal conviction and sacrifice both the weapons "master" and the Asst director who handed him the gun (both of whom do bear responsibility in varying degrees IMO). He'll still be sued civilly (as both the trigger-puller and producer) and take a beating; the investors will get hosed.

AndyC1911 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:41 pm

Syntyr wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:42 am

AndyC1911 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:39 am Actors' Equity Safety Tips:

https://www.actorsequity.org/resources/ ... -firearms/



Note that it's under the section "Resources for Producers"...

And there it is. Apparently, these rules were not being followed.

Excellent find Andy. Baldwin is guilty.

I believe he is.

However, I'm going to (unsurprisingly) predict that - because Baldwin is a major anti-gun darling of the Left - they'll work a way to protect him from any criminal conviction and sacrifice both the weapons "master" and the Asst director who handed him the gun (both of whom do bear responsibility in varying degrees IMO). He'll still be sued civilly (as both the trigger-puller and producer) and take a beating; the investors will get hosed.

In addition, finishing that movie is going to be tricky at best.

That movie is dead in the water, IMO.

Motion Picture Industry safety bulletins related to firearms:
1. Safety with firearms
https://www.csatf.org/wp-content/upload ... REARMS.pdf

2. Special Use of Live Ammunition
https://www.csatf.org/wp-content/upload ... REARMS.pdf

https://apple.news/ARbIcxEu2SOSTRTMcr50xTg

Assistant Director who handed Baldwin the gun and said “cold”was recently fired for previous gun accident on a set.

May be a story to take blame off of the shooter Alex Baldwin.

Really sad for this family of the victim. Totally preventable with just a tiny amount of care.

Attorney Andrew Branca's Analysis.

Legal Analysis: Alec Baldwin Situation Beginning to Look a Lot Like Manslaughter

https://lawofselfdefense.com/legal-anal ... slaughter/

oljames3 wrote: Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:39 pm Attorney Andrew Branca's Analysis.

Legal Analysis: Alec Baldwin Situation Beginning to Look a Lot Like Manslaughter

https://lawofselfdefense.com/legal-anal ... slaughter/

This analysis makes a pretty cut and dried case for the involuntary manslaughter charge if the actual facts turn out to be as we understand them at this point.

Unlike Ed Kennedy, Baldwin is not going to have a post-incident career. 100:1

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/m ... 91dd43805c

The gun, which was fired by Alec Baldwin on the set of the movie Rust, may have even been loaded with live rounds when it was used for what was essentially target practice, TMZ reported.

Alec Baldwin, a card carrying member of the left, claims it wasn't his fault because he was told the gun was "Cold".
The left loves to equate gun ownership with driving a car.
Ok. Let's play:

Say you are driving and ready to turn right and you are watching traffic to your left and the passenger tells you that all is clear on the right.
You see an opening in traffic and turn right but there is a pedestrian crossing the street.
You strike and kill the pedestrian.
Who is going to jail? You or your passenger?

Baldwin is responsible.

flechero wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:16 am It sounds as simple as they used a real gun (too cheap to buy an actual prop gun) as a prop... not a "prop gun" AND THEN VIOLATED JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE SAFETY RULES with it.

fixed your post

still strikes me odd as why props and the people that set up the props allowed any live ammunition anywhere near the set.

its always fun and games until someone gets poked in the brown eye.

why i dont really care for mr baldwin, the blame should fall on him and the entire prop crew. somebody needs some serious come to jesus talks and maybe time in a real jail

Chemist45 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:04 am Alec Baldwin, a card carrying member of the left, claims it wasn't his fault because he was told the gun was "Cold".
The left loves to equate gun ownership with driving a car.
Ok. Let's play:

Say you are driving and ready to turn right and you are watching traffic to your left and the passenger tells you that all is clear on the right.
You see an opening in traffic and turn right but there is a pedestrian crossing the street.
You strike and kill the pedestrian.
Who is going to jail? You or your passenger?

Baldwin is responsible.

Great analogy - stealing :)

I'd like to know the bottom line. HOW that live bullet got in there in the first place. Who, exactly, put it in there? Were all 6 bullets live, or just that one? Maybe a disgruntled employee is in the picture - 7 people walked off the set that morning. If all 6 bullets were live, fingerprints should be on them. SURELY the investigators checked everything for prints....?

Where did the ammo come from, anyway? Not many people have a supply of .45 Long Colt sitting around. And remember this is in California, where you do a background check to buy ammo.

As far as Baldwin checking the gun, that sort of makes sense, but at the same time, making a movie like this may involve many retakes of various scenes, or many scenes involving a gun. Is the actor expected to empty the gun and examine the ammo EVERY SINGLE time it's used in a scene? Look at the John Wick movies; is Keanu supposed to work all the bullets out of that semi-auto magazine, check the ammo, and reload it, every time he fires it? I doubt it. If he did, he'd spend all day unloading/reloading magazines.

But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, seems like there's an awful lot of unanswered questions in this situation.

Dana Loesch interviews attorney Andrew Branca on the Baldwin shooting.

Earlier today Dana Loesch was kind enough to have me on her show for a few minutes–roughly 15–to talk about the Alec Baldwin shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. I wanted to share that with you, so enjoy the video (and the transcript below my signature, for those who prefer to read rather than view).

https://lawofselfdefense.com/andrew-gue ... esch-show/