Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:00 am
The great Evergreen state of Washington.longtooth wrote:Agree completely. Your 1st post. Welcome aboard & good thinking. Your last statement was, you folks in Texas, Whar ya from friend?
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:06 am
Well, "Open Carry" is an appropriate topic for my first post here...
Here in Virginia anyone who is not disqualified from possessing a firearm, can open carry without a concealed handgun license where allowed by law.
With a CHL, your method of carry is optional, except, if you have a CHL and want to dine in a restaurant that serves alcohol and carry your firearm, you must open carry
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I have a CHL and do open carry "when and where appropriate," which I believe is a key point in the open carry debate. I don't OC in public places between dusk and dawn. There are three convenience stores, one near my home, one near my office, and one near my range where I open carry and a couple of chinese takeout restaurants. On a regular basis, that's about it. Did carry into CompUSA last week...
What reactions have I encountered? Only one negative interaction came a couple years ago from a member of the security group that patrols our office complex. He asked if I am one of those 2nd Amendment nuts. I politely said, "I'm not nuts, unless you ask my grandchildren."
I asked him why he carried a weapon, for protection? He said, "Of course."
"So do I." was my response and I shook his hand and went about my business.
All other contacts, mostly questions about why I carry have been neutral or positive.
One father brought his 9-year old son up, asked if I wsa a policeman. I said no, just a normal person like himself. He turned to his son and said, "See _______ , good guys do carry guns." The three of us talked for about 10 minutes about the whys of self defense.
Two people I talked to went ahead and obtained their CHLs.
Most of the time, people don't notice the pistol in its IWB holster. They do notice more often when I carry OWB.
And, last, open carry is absolutely not for everyone for lots of reasons.
It is a matter of choice.
rp
Here in Virginia anyone who is not disqualified from possessing a firearm, can open carry without a concealed handgun license where allowed by law.
With a CHL, your method of carry is optional, except, if you have a CHL and want to dine in a restaurant that serves alcohol and carry your firearm, you must open carry
. I have a CHL and do open carry "when and where appropriate," which I believe is a key point in the open carry debate. I don't OC in public places between dusk and dawn. There are three convenience stores, one near my home, one near my office, and one near my range where I open carry and a couple of chinese takeout restaurants. On a regular basis, that's about it. Did carry into CompUSA last week...
What reactions have I encountered? Only one negative interaction came a couple years ago from a member of the security group that patrols our office complex. He asked if I am one of those 2nd Amendment nuts. I politely said, "I'm not nuts, unless you ask my grandchildren."
I asked him why he carried a weapon, for protection? He said, "Of course."
"So do I." was my response and I shook his hand and went about my business.
All other contacts, mostly questions about why I carry have been neutral or positive.
One father brought his 9-year old son up, asked if I wsa a policeman. I said no, just a normal person like himself. He turned to his son and said, "See _______ , good guys do carry guns." The three of us talked for about 10 minutes about the whys of self defense.
Two people I talked to went ahead and obtained their CHLs.
Most of the time, people don't notice the pistol in its IWB holster. They do notice more often when I carry OWB.
And, last, open carry is absolutely not for everyone for lots of reasons.
It is a matter of choice.
rp
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:45 am
Great post Russ, thanks for your participation.
I am pleased to see those from "out of state" joining the forum.
Happy 4th.
I am pleased to see those from "out of state" joining the forum.
Happy 4th.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:18 pm
Thanks, flintknapper... cjlandry directed me here from another forum.
As to being out of state, while I am a Virginian, I started doing business in Texas in 1979. My son and daughter-in-law live in Houston. I get to Texas several times a year on business, mostly the Dallas area. After 27 years of coming to Texas, I feel as much at home here as Virginia.
Wait, where am I....never mind, you know what I mean.
Oh, and here is my G20 OWB holster...
Happy 4th to all!!
As to being out of state, while I am a Virginian, I started doing business in Texas in 1979. My son and daughter-in-law live in Houston. I get to Texas several times a year on business, mostly the Dallas area. After 27 years of coming to Texas, I feel as much at home here as Virginia.
Wait, where am I....never mind, you know what I mean.
Oh, and here is my G20 OWB holster...
Happy 4th to all!!
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:02 pm
Love that Concho!
You're just a "long distance" Texan. We claim ya!
You're just a "long distance" Texan. We claim ya!
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:18 pm
Thank you! I think that description is appropriate.flintknapper wrote:Love that Concho!
You're just a "long distance" Texan. We claim ya!
The concho? Yes, it is a conversation starter.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:40 pm
Good to see you here, Russ. We have a few others around here who frequent "that other forum".
Have you been to the "Introduce Yourself" thread in the "General Gun, Shooting, and Equipment Forum"?
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... &start=510
It's a good way to see who's here, and for others to get to know you a little.
Have you been to the "Introduce Yourself" thread in the "General Gun, Shooting, and Equipment Forum"?
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... &start=510
It's a good way to see who's here, and for others to get to know you a little.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:16 pm
Russ. you know? that is even a good Texas name. Welcome & really good first post. Good encouragement cj
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:48 pm
Thanks, cj... Better get over there before you start posting stories about me....cjlandry wrote:Good to see you here, Russ. We have a few others around here who frequent "that other forum".
Have you been to the "Introduce Yourself" thread in the "General Gun, Shooting, and Equipment Forum"?
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... &start=510
It's a good way to see who's here, and for others to get to know you a little.
Will try to get that done tonight.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:13 pm
Welcome in RussP. It's always nice to have imput for other parts of the country.
Nice pice of Tucker Leather ya have there.
Nice pice of Tucker Leather ya have there.
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:42 pm
If it weren't for Russ' beautiful HF1, I would probably never have bought my own:dws1117 wrote:Welcome in RussP. It's always nice to have imput for other parts of the country.
Nice pice of Tucker Leather ya have there.
That holster just makes me proud to be a Texan!
Edit: FWIW, I'm currently in treatment for the Dunlop disease (belly dun lopped over my belt).
But wouldn't these rigs be perfect for the occasional open-carry situation in Texas?
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:05 pm
Yep.
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:37 am
I wish to have an OC law because I don't wish to live in fear. Fear of accidently printing, when I have the legal right to carry. Fear of accidently showing when I have the legal right to carry. Fear of my hand gun not being readily available because it's in such deep cover because I can't show that I'm carrying.
I want to carry my firearm in such a way that would not raise alarm for the place that I intend to go.
For instance:
Mall: concealed.
Work: concealed.
Movie: concealed.
riding in the car: open.
riding a motorcycle: open.
working in the yard: open
walking over to the neighbors: open.
walking the dog: open.
Lowe's/Home Depot: open or concealed.
Each has an advantage, lets try to use these to our advantage.
Russ
I want to carry my firearm in such a way that would not raise alarm for the place that I intend to go.
For instance:
Mall: concealed.
Work: concealed.
Movie: concealed.
riding in the car: open.
riding a motorcycle: open.
working in the yard: open
walking over to the neighbors: open.
walking the dog: open.
Lowe's/Home Depot: open or concealed.
Each has an advantage, lets try to use these to our advantage.
Russ
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:30 am
I agree, kw5kw. I think, like so many have already said, that the situation should dictate whether you open carry or not. Personally, I would still prefer to concealed carry most of the time. I believe the biggest benefit for me would be not having to worry about printing or exposing my gun. However, for outdoor activities, I would prefer open carry for its comfort.
-Dustin
-Dustin
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:34 am
+1kw5kw wrote:I wish to have an OC law because I don't wish to live in fear. Fear of accidently printing, when I have the legal right to carry. Fear of accidently showing when I have the legal right to carry. Fear of my hand gun not being readily available because it's in such deep cover because I can't show that I'm carrying.
I want to carry my firearm in such a way that would not raise alarm for the place that I intend to go.
For instance:
Mall: concealed.
Work: concealed.
Movie: concealed.
riding in the car: open.
riding a motorcycle: open.
working in the yard: open
walking over to the neighbors: open.
walking the dog: open.
Lowe's/Home Depot: open or concealed.
Each has an advantage, lets try to use these to our advantage.
Russ
if the wind blows my concealment open, i wont have to worry about it.
it just gives us one more option. whats the big deal with that?
so far, no one has given any good evidence as to why we shouldnt have open carry. "i wouldnt open carry because [insert excuse here]" isnt evidence.