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Rockrz wrote:OK, well I think I've received all the advice I
need on this subject.

...unsubscribing now...

Hey, didn't mean to run you off or anything like that........

Just pointing out that you asked a question and you got many answers, all covering about all they could cover on your question, but you kept on about it, only changing little (of no significance) from your original question........

Stick around......we are a good group here........just some of us like to answer the question only once!

Rockrz wrote:No matter how you ask the question, it applies equally on the other side of the coin.

Exactly. No matter how many times you ask your question as a buyer, it applies equally to the person selling to you.

Rockrz wrote:

aardwolf wrote:I won't sell a gun to someone who doesn't have a CHL.

Thanks for letting me know where you stand so I don't waste my time!

You're welcome. Stating my policy up front keeps us from wasting each others time.

I hope you guys are done now! Keep it cool. Thank you.

Burglars and gangsters do not sell firearms through classified ads or on forums. I don't know where they make their transactions. Maybe where they trade kilos of coke and other contraband.

Almost all the of time it will go to another Gangster or Thug that is their circle of friends. Also they relish there weapon as much as you do yours remember, it is a tool for their trade.

From what I gather hanging around LEO is they circulate stolen or straw ones amongst themselves. Until they get a record any banger can buy from the store new, but most dont make 21 with out a felony. Thats why mine are in a huge heavy safe, I could supply several gangs if they broke in without it.

aardwolf wrote:I'll ask it another way. How does the seller know you're even legally able to purchase or possess a firearm?

I won't sell a gun to someone who doesn't have a CHL.

I wont either, Its just for my piece of mind. Ive had no problems doing so either.

I only do business with other CHL holders....period

All I ever do, is ask to see their drivers license, that way I can be sure they are Texas residents.

I am curious about one post on this thread. The poster mentioned that a gun he sold someone turned up in some kind of drug raid or something. How and why did they trace the gun back two or more owners to you?

03Lightningrocks wrote:I am curious about one post on this thread. The poster mentioned that a gun he sold someone turned up in some kind of drug raid or something. How and why did they trace the gun back two or more owners to you?

Original owner = me

anygunanywhere wrote:Ever notice the black helicopters that hover near gun ranges?

Anygunanywhere

YES...

But it is the satellites that can read the label on a golf ball from space that I worry about ... :)

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I'm with carlson1 on this. I would never sign a paper nor allow you to photocopy my licenses in order to buy or sell.

The most I'm willing to do is allow you to glance at my CHL, and that's it. If the authorities come to you later on asking who you sold the gun to, I don't want you to be able to identify me. It's best for both of us if all you can truthfully say is that, "I sold it to some guy I met on the internets!"

I've bought quite a number of firearms FTF, both at gun shows from private sellers, and from individuals on this board and others. I've never had a bad experience and have met a lot of great people.

John wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:I am curious about one post on this thread. The poster mentioned that a gun he sold someone turned up in some kind of drug raid or something. How and why did they trace the gun back two or more owners to you?

Original owner = me

For some reason I thought the paperwork for a firearm transaction was disposed of after a certain amount of time and that the instant check system didn't record transactions. I didn't know there was a way they could track a firearm back to the orginal owner after a certain amount of time.

The FFL keeps form 4473s for 20 years or until he goes out of business, then he is supposed to turn then over to BATFE, which keeps them forever.

Of course, fires and floods happen in some cases.

NICS query records are not supposed to be retained, but when John Ashcroft became U.S. Attorney General in 2001, he said that the previous administration had been keeping them. Supposedly the current administration is obeying the law.

In some states, all firearms transactions are recorded by a state agency, or sometimes just handguns. Texas does not have those issues.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:The FFL keeps form 4473s for 20 years or until he goes out of business, then he is supposed to turn then over to BATFE, which keeps them forever.

Of course, fires and floods happen in some cases.

NICS query records are not supposed to be retained, but when John Ashcroft became U.S. Attorney General in 2001, he said that the previous administration had been keeping them. Supposedly the current administration is obeying the law.

In some states, all firearms transactions are recorded by a state agency, or sometimes just handguns. Texas does not have those issues.

- Jim

Hmmmm.....note to self. Only purchase firearms from private party sellers. Thanks for the info.