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surprise_i'm_armed wrote:TAM / anyone:

California, and I believe Massachusetts, have the '10 round mag'
restriction.

If you load the M & P to its full 10 + 1 capability, does that break
the California rules? Since you would then have a weapon loaded
with 11 rounds?

SIA

No, you don't break law. The law applies to magazine capacity, not pistol capacity. All semi-autos are going to be +1, regardless of magazine capacity.

SQLGeek wrote:Does the M&P have the magazine disconnect "safety feature"? If so can it be disabled?

I have smaller hands as well so maybe the M&P would be just the ticket.

S&W makes these in several variants, with or w/o thumb safety, with or w/o magazine safety, even with or w/o an internal key lock (like Taurus)
From what I understand some states require one or multiple of these safety features to legally be sold. Hence S&W having to make multiple versions of the same gun to be able to sell it, driving up the cost more than needed

Fortunately we live in a state that requires none of these, but they are available if you want them. I prefer none.

On the site I mentioned in this thread there are instructions to remove any of these safeties, but we all know they could potentially bring on legal issues in the case of a self defense situation.

It feels good to finally have some small bit of info to contribute to this site!

Thanks Estand, that is good to know!

The Annoyed Man wrote:

SQLGeek wrote:Does the M&P have the magazine disconnect "safety feature"? If so can it be disabled?

I have smaller hands as well so maybe the M&P would be just the ticket.

I don't believe it does. I haven't tried it with a live round, but you can dry fire it without a magazine in place, so it must not have the disconnect.

And just to show that I am at times inattentive...

...I was showing the gun to Carlson1 yesterday, and I noticed that the small white lettering on the right side of the black slide, which I had not paid any attention to, clearly says: "CAUTION-CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH MAGAZINE REMOVED"

This time, "assume" just made an ass out of me alone. I assumed that it said something about the place of manufacture or something.

Other interesting tidbits: This example of the M&P has no key lock system. Also, there is another interesting safety mechanism in the take-down procedure. Before you rotate the take-down lever down, you have to lock the slide back and push down a little lever in the mag-well which disengages the sear — otherwise the slide cannot be pushed forward and off of the frame. Accessing this little lever — unless you have a slender pinky finger, which I don't — requires the use of a tool. A screwdriver will suffice, but it is not necessary, as the Frame Tool, which retains the interchangeable backstrap, can be used for this purpose. Simply rotate it and pull it out of its hole, then use the metal tip of it to engage and push down the lever.

I own 2 XD .45 the 4" and the 5" -
The 4" has the safety and is really nice to carry. The 5 inch is really nice at the range - very accurate.

The one problem that I am currently investigating is lately I've been getting some magazine feed issues. I keep 10 rounds in my carry mags, and while at the range the other day I had two feed malfunctions. I'm wondering if the spring is waring out. Only had them for about 6 months.

I will continue to shoot and let you know if this is a potential problem or just one mag with a bad spring. Other then that awesome guns both for carry and for target shooting.

OldSchool wrote:Culpability moment: Carrying only at home, as we have yet to put rounds through it; too much going on to get to the range.

Back to the XD45c: Finally took the brand-new XD45c to the range today. DynaBlue, our DIL and I ran four mags through it, one 10 and three 13's. No FTF or any other issues. It feels a lot like the G36, and accuracy may have actually been slightly better than the G36 (bullseyes at 10 yd); however, that could also be caused by both operators improving their skills (not hard, when you realize how short a time we've been at this).

Very comfortable with carrying this now.

We also spent hours with our M1 Garands and M1 Carbines for the first time. Report later, after we stop giggling!

Love my Xd 45 in 4inch. It's been flawless. Shoots everything and has Never FTF or mis fired. I would highly recommend it. It was my primary carry gun but I just bought a 1911. I just love Short SA triggers. With that being said if I was in the woods among the dirt and water it would be the XD because I know it will shoot everytime. Clip holds 13 with one extra in the chamber not bad at all. Good luck.

i carry the 4" xd45 in an MTAC holster. I am 6' 4" and pushing 380(i know, i already started dieting). i can carry with a button down shirt tucked in and bloused out a little. a good friend who knows i carry and what i carry and where i carry it couldn't tell it was on me. i love it. it shoots where i point it, i had a few misfeeds but i think i was limp wristing after a long day at the range. i did have to learn not to bump the slide lock with my thumb though. mine is the model without the safety. just the trigger and grip safeties. i say get one

The Annoyed Man wrote:Also, there is another interesting safety mechanism in the take-down procedure. Before you rotate the take-down lever down, you have to lock the slide back and push down a little lever in the mag-well which disengages the sear — otherwise the slide cannot be pushed forward and off of the frame. Accessing this little lever — unless you have a slender pinky finger, which I don't — requires the use of a tool. A screwdriver will suffice, but it is not necessary, as the Frame Tool, which retains the interchangeable backstrap, can be used for this purpose. Simply rotate it and pull it out of its hole, then use the metal tip of it to engage and push down the lever.

I common ink pen works well to push that "sear disconnect" lever down which gives the slide clearance to move forward. I keep one in my range box for this. Pull back on slide just a bit until you hear the click, then it will slide forward and off. You can also dry fire it and it will release the slide, but that is hard on the firing pin and not recommended (allot of people do it though). Note you don't need to bother with pushing it back up either when you reassemble. An inserted magazine pushes it up automatically also.

I had the chance to handle the M&P 9 Compact and the XD-9 SC yesterday. I really like both of them and I think I will be choosing between one of them. This will be a hard decision...I may have to get both.

Estand wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Also, there is another interesting safety mechanism in the take-down procedure. Before you rotate the take-down lever down, you have to lock the slide back and push down a little lever in the mag-well which disengages the sear — otherwise the slide cannot be pushed forward and off of the frame. Accessing this little lever — unless you have a slender pinky finger, which I don't — requires the use of a tool. A screwdriver will suffice, but it is not necessary, as the Frame Tool, which retains the interchangeable backstrap, can be used for this purpose. Simply rotate it and pull it out of its hole, then use the metal tip of it to engage and push down the lever.

I common ink pen works well to push that "sear disconnect" lever down which gives the slide clearance to move forward. I keep one in my range box for this. Pull back on slide just a bit until you hear the click, then it will slide forward and off. You can also dry fire it and it will release the slide, but that is hard on the firing pin and not recommended (allot of people do it though). Note you don't need to bother with pushing it back up either when you reassemble. An inserted magazine pushes it up automatically also.

Also note that, on the M&P, if you dry fire it that way and are not aware of that "feature" and not prepared for the consequences, it will fling the entire slide assembly right off the gun and onto the floor. Don't ask me how I found that out. Thanks, but I'd rather just do it the right way.

SQLGeek wrote:I had the chance to handle the M&P 9 Compact and the XD-9 SC yesterday. I really like both of them and I think I will be choosing between one of them. This will be a hard decision...I may have to get both.

Thats the way to do it