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In further reading a cop can write that ticket. Not much you can do IMO.

Keith B wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Hmmm....

So what did you do to get a DOC-Lang ticket?

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What does DOC-Lang mean? I've never in my 40 years of my life ever heard of it; I assumed it was the type of ticket (DisOrderly Conduct). I just Googled it and there is not a single reference.

Embalmo wrote:

Keith B wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Hmmm....

So what did you do to get a DOC-Lang ticket?

Just a reminder that any form of profanity (abbreviated, substituted, pseudo or actual) is not allowed on the forum, so do not post it.

What does DOC-Lang mean? I've never in my 40 years of my life ever heard of it; I assumed it was the type of ticket (DisOrderly Conduct). I just Googled it and there is not a single reference.

Disorderly Conduct-language.
In this case it sounds like a bogus charge.

Keith B wrote:

gigag04 wrote:Hmmm....

So what did you do to get a DOC-Lang ticket?

Just a reminder that any form of profanity (abbreviated, substituted, pseudo or actual) is not allowed on the forum, so do not post it.

I see-I thought gigag04 was being scolded for saying DOC-Lang.

McKnife wrote:Is there an update to this story? Was a complaint filed? Charges dropped for the disorderly?

Charges filed on the security guard, school, district or employer of guard?

I'd love to know. Thanks!

Me too.

The best news would be that the charge was dropped and that badge heavy hot dog (the security guard) was looking for other employment.

I think the case will hinge on which "bad word" was used.

Like Steve Rothstein said, the language doesn't have to prompt an actual immediate breach of the peace, just "tend to". If it was one of the terms now commonly heard on primetime TV, you'll probably coast. Racial epithet? You're probably toast.

And, it will also matter what was written in the report. Did you admit to use of the term?

I too am interested in how this came out. Given the description of the event, I would sure be complaining through my lawyer to the school authorities about the security guard's behavior.

Also was unaware of "DOC-Lang." Sounds like a law that needs to go away. Not so much that I approve of bad language, but it is wide open for abuse by those with a bully complex. Having watched a number of videos of police going about their duties, if the law is enforced fairly and evenly, there should be a fair number of police officers with a DOC-Lang on their records. The most recent one is that video of the cops in Seattle who detained the wrong guy after a robbery report. (Granted the same law may not exist in Seattle, and of course there are more important issues about that event beyond language).

ELB wrote:I too am interested in how this came out. Given the description of the event, I would sure be complaining through my lawyer to the school authorities about the security guard's behavior.

Also was unaware of "DOC-Lang." Sounds like a law that needs to go away. Not so much that I approve of bad language, but it is wide open for abuse by those with a bully complex. Having watched a number of videos of police going about their duties, if the law is enforced fairly and evenly, there should be a fair number of police officers with a DOC-Lang on their records. The most recent one is that video of the cops in Seattle who detained the wrong guy after a robbery report. (Granted the same law may not exist in Seattle, and of course there are more important issues about that event beyond language).

This like many other laws on the books is subject to abuse by those prone to do so. It does however have its uses. Example: people in a public area talking in a normal tone of voice but using extremely foul language without regard to families with children around them.

If the police officer didn’t witness the incident, and unless you admitted using the language, I would expect the security guard to have to show up in court as the witness (complaining party). Did the guard sign a complaint?

UPDATE


Just had the meeting between my lawyer and a Fort Bend Co ADA yesterday. Yes, it took Fort Bend County over 3 months to schedule it. After a 5 minute conversation between the ADA and my lawyer, the ticket was dismissed.

So its over and done!!

As my first run in with the law I would recomend ALWAYS get a laywer, even for something as minor as a Class C DOC-language ticket. She new exactly what to say and how to say it. I would never have had this dismissed without her help. The ADA didn't want to listen but the lawyer keeped at him until she got the dismissal we wanted. Yes I paid $350 for the lawyer to get out of a $180 fine, but it was worth it IMO.

capttjk wrote:As my first run in with the law I would recomend ALWAYS get a laywer, even for something as minor as a Class C DOC-language ticket. She new exactly what to say and how to say it. I would never have had this dismissed without her help. The ADA didn't want to listen but the lawyer keeped at him until she got the dismissal we wanted. Yes I paid $350 for the lawyer to get out of a $180 fine, but it was worth it IMO.

No. You paid $350 for a lawyer to get out of a $180 fine and keep your concealed handgun license and avoid a 7 year revocation (which could have made it really hard to get approved for one again.)

Congratulations on achieving the correct outcome.

Way to go!!

Any thing to add about the security guy?

baldeagle wrote:

capttjk wrote:As my first run in with the law I would recomend ALWAYS get a laywer, even for something as minor as a Class C DOC-language ticket. She new exactly what to say and how to say it. I would never have had this dismissed without her help. The ADA didn't want to listen but the lawyer keeped at him until she got the dismissal we wanted. Yes I paid $350 for the lawyer to get out of a $180 fine, but it was worth it IMO.

No. You paid $350 for a lawyer to get out of a $180 fine and keep your concealed handgun license and avoid a 7 year revocation (which could have made it really hard to get approved for one again.)

Congratulations on achieving the correct outcome.

That is true. Keeping the CHL is well worth the cost.

Thanks.

Glad it worked out capttjk.