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Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:07 pm
by frazzled
Leroy wrote:Unless of course your "domesticated dog" is a 130 pound Rottie...like mine!
Or you're walking a herd of these beasts. My TBone is the terrible master of all he surveys (of course is vision is down to about 3 feet now)
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Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:08 pm
by frazzled
Edit: She Who Must Be Obeyed has called me twice about it. She's very tickled that the governor has the same caliber as her, but she doesn't need a laser sight for her shooting iron. :reddevil

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:10 pm
by texjames
Keith B wrote:
Embalmo wrote:
UpTheIrons wrote:
chabouk wrote:So, he doesn't carry with one in the pipe?
Did he not have it in Condition One (or Condition Zero, since the LCP is DAO)? I must have missed that in the articles I read.
I didn't notice that either.
From the article:
"I holler and the coyote stopped. I holler again. By this time I had taken my weapon out and charged it. It is now staring dead at me. Either me or the dog are in imminent danger. I did the appropriate thing and sent it to where coyotes go," he said.
I am assuming that he meant he racked the slide to chamber a round.
Yeah i guess he don't carry it chambered huh? :biggrinjester:

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:27 pm
by Embalmo
Not having a round chambered works nicely when an animal is just looking at you, but for a moving threat, I've rather have one in the pipe. If he's got a CHL he should have been taught that is class.

Embalmo

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:35 pm
by frazzled
Embalmo wrote:Not having a round chambered works nicely when an animal is just looking at you, but for a moving threat, I've rather have one in the pipe. If he's got a CHL he should have been taught that is class.

Embalmo
many don't agree with your synopsis. To each their own.

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:42 pm
by Mike1951
frazzled wrote:
Embalmo wrote:Not having a round chambered works nicely when an animal is just looking at you, but for a moving threat, I've rather have one in the pipe. If he's got a CHL he should have been taught that is class.

Embalmo
many don't agree with your synopsis. To each their own.
I don't agree!! Anyone not carrying one in the chamber has the wrong handgun and should replace with one that he is comfortable with.

There is no circumstance where an empty chamber in a semi-auto is justified.

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:46 pm
by texjames
frazzled wrote:
Embalmo wrote:Not having a round chambered works nicely when an animal is just looking at you, but for a moving threat, I've rather have one in the pipe. If he's got a CHL he should have been taught that is class.

Embalmo
many don't agree with your synopsis. To each their own.
You mean a lot of folks don't agree on having a round chambered? I would think they would really be in the minority.
If i have to yank mine out i don't want to be trying racking one in under a lot of stress that you would be under.
The way i look at it is split seconds could mean the differance.

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:47 pm
by seniorshooteress
Teamless wrote:Does this mean that when i am on walks with my dog(s), and carrying my weapon. A rattlesnake comes out, or a coyote comes out, can I shoot it too?
Country or isolated road/footpath, yes, city street I think not, but what are coyotes and snakes doing on city streets any how? (The two legged coyotes and snakes, huh?) :evil2: I carry a Beretta Bobcat .22lr around on my property for shooting snakes, rats, etc. Does this mean I am under powered? Seeing as how the .380, some think, isn't enough lead to kill a coyote. Guess I will have to just make my shots, well placed, between the eyes. :smilelol5:

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:12 pm
by GreezyG
Mike1951 wrote:
frazzled wrote:
Embalmo wrote:Not having a round chambered works nicely when an animal is just looking at you, but for a moving threat, I've rather have one in the pipe. If he's got a CHL he should have been taught that is class.

Embalmo
many don't agree with your synopsis. To each their own.
I don't agree!! Anyone not carrying one in the chamber has the wrong handgun and should replace with one that he is comfortable with.

There is no circumstance where an empty chamber in a semi-auto is justified.
I agree 100%. A friend of my is a CHL in Georgia and was in town a few weeks ago. When we went out he was *shocked* I carried one in the pipe. I told him I was shocked he didn't carry it loaded.

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:25 pm
by Embalmo
The bottom line is that there is no rational reasons to not have a round chambered; fear, unfamiliarity, or discomfort are not rational reasons.

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:17 pm
by PSLOwner
Wow, I can SO see a future endorsement deal in Gov. Perry's future! Anyone who loves their dog is alright by me.

I have been debating getting a LCP for summer carry when I cannot carry the Glock 30 or LCR, this just might seal the deal for me.

Thanks gov!

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:24 pm
by fickman
:txflag:

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:40 pm
by srothstein
Teamless wrote:Does this mean that when i am on walks with my dog(s), and carrying my weapon. A rattlesnake comes out, or a coyote comes out, can I shoot it too?
For the snake, you might have to use the necessity justification, but the coyote about to attack a domestic animal is specifically authorized in Health and Safety Code 822.013. Anyone seeing the attack is authorized to kill the coyote. It doesn't even have to be your dog.

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:52 pm
by HankB
austinrealtor wrote: , , , And someone wondered when the first saw the headline if Perry had shot a Mexican illegal immigrant smuggler :eek6
Well, you have to admit that would have generated a lot more media interest . . . especially if Perry made the same final comment as he did after dispatching the canid. :lol:

As far as what actually did happen . . . Governor, this one's for you: :tiphat:

Re: Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:33 pm
by UpTheIrons
Keith B wrote:
Embalmo wrote:
UpTheIrons wrote:
chabouk wrote:So, he doesn't carry with one in the pipe?
Did he not have it in Condition One (or Condition Zero, since the LCP is DAO)? I must have missed that in the articles I read.
I didn't notice that either.
From the article:
"I holler and the coyote stopped. I holler again. By this time I had taken my weapon out and charged it. It is now staring dead at me. Either me or the dog are in imminent danger. I did the appropriate thing and sent it to where coyotes go," he said.
I am assuming that he meant he racked the slide to chamber a round.
OK. I did see that. For some stoopid reason, I thought he charged the 'yote in an attempt to scare it off first, then dispatched it when it didn't run off.

I was under the impression you "charged" the magazine with rounds before you loaded the gun. Or do you load the magazine and then "charge" the gun by chambering a round? :headscratch