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Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:18 pm
by Ameer
It sounds like there's little or no case law for concealed carry and the closest thing is DWI case law.

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:32 am
by Bullwhip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz8dsvm0GFo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz8dsvm0GFo[/youtube]

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:17 am
by sjfcontrol
Those are the "standardized" tests? :smilelol5:
Can anybody actually recite the alphabet backwards? (Without practice.) Another test I'd fail. :banghead:

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:33 pm
by Rebel
sjfcontrol wrote:Those are the "standardized" tests? :smilelol5:
Can anybody actually recite the alphabet backwards? (Without practice.) Another test I'd fail. :banghead:
LOL, do they really ask for the alphabet backwards, that and heel toe in a straight line would be an instant conviction for me. :lol:

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:46 pm
by KD5NRH
sjfcontrol wrote:Those are the "standardized" tests?
No, this is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MXU3J6Qbs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:47 pm
by Ol Zeke
:tiphat:

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

<Ayn Rand>

:tiphat:

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:05 pm
by Keith B
And of course, not real.

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:25 pm
by sjfcontrol
Keith B wrote:
And of course, not real.
Aww, Keith! Next you'll be telling us there is no Santa Clause, or Tooth Fairy! :cryin

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:28 pm
by Keith B
sjfcontrol wrote:
Keith B wrote:And of course, not real.
Aww, Keith! Next you'll be telling us there is no Santa Clause, or Tooth Fairy! :cryin
Nope, would never tell you that. It's just that people who are drunk only THINK they can dance this well. ;-)

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:41 pm
by WildBill
Keith B wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
Keith B wrote:And of course, not real.
Aww, Keith! Next you'll be telling us there is no Santa Claus, or Tooth Fairy! :cryin
Nope, would never tell you that. It's just that people who are drunk only THINK they can dance this well. ;-)
I think the same goes for SWI [singing while intoxicated]. :mrgreen:

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:23 pm
by WildBill
This story is about a woman arrested for PI after her son tried to explain her medical condition before that took her to jail.
“The officer told me to sit down and if I said one more word that I was going to be arrested," her son said.

He said he tried to show police his mother's medical records that show she goes to speech therapy.

“And I got arrested for that," he said of his attempt.
http://www.khou.com/home/Stroke-victim- ... 05243.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:52 am
by sjfcontrol
WildBill wrote:This story is about a woman arrested for PI after her son tried to explain her medical condition before that took her to jail.
“The officer told me to sit down and if I said one more word that I was going to be arrested," her son said.

He said he tried to show police his mother's medical records that show she goes to speech therapy.

“And I got arrested for that," he said of his attempt.
http://www.khou.com/home/Stroke-victim- ... 05243.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ignoring the issue of medical problem v.s. intoxication -- they asked her to step out on her porch, then arrested her for public intoxication.
Isn't that entrapment? They asked her to step outside just so they could get her in a "public" place (still on her own property), to make it illegal so they could arrest.
Seems pretty smarmy to me. :mad5

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:03 am
by WildBill
sjfcontrol wrote:Ignoring the issue of medical problem v.s. intoxication -- they asked her to step out on her porch, then arrested her for public intoxication. Isn't that entrapment? They asked her to step outside just so they could get her in a "public" place (still on her own property), to make it illegal so they could arrest. Seems pretty smarmy to me. :mad5
No, it's not entrapment, but I believe that this happens often in this type of situation.

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:35 am
by sjfcontrol
WildBill wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:Ignoring the issue of medical problem v.s. intoxication -- they asked her to step out on her porch, then arrested her for public intoxication. Isn't that entrapment? They asked her to step outside just so they could get her in a "public" place (still on her own property), to make it illegal so they could arrest. Seems pretty smarmy to me. :mad5
No, it's not entrapment, but I believe that this happens often in this type of situation.
Why not? They are asking the person to do something illegal, then arresting them for it. What's missing?

Re: case law for "intoxcated" limit while CC

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:43 am
by WildBill
sjfcontrol wrote:
WildBill wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:Ignoring the issue of medical problem v.s. intoxication -- they asked her to step out on her porch, then arrested her for public intoxication. Isn't that entrapment? They asked her to step outside just so they could get her in a "public" place (still on her own property), to make it illegal so they could arrest. Seems pretty smarmy to me. :mad5
No, it's not entrapment, but I believe that this happens often in this type of situation.
Why not? They are asking the person to do something illegal, then arresting them for it. What's missing?
Asking someone to go outside isn't illegal. If they ordered her to go out, maybe. Maybe one of the LEOs or lawyers can give you a better answer. I just know that this isn't the first time this has happened. I believe it is standard practice.

P.S. I am not sure exactly what "smarmy" means, but I will concede that they acted swarmily. ;-)