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And what you apparently missed in the three pages of speculative bull was that it was already pointed out several times that the parking lot bill has an exception for employees of a school. Songbird posted the language. However, the exception simply allows the school to fire her. It does not define a third degree felony. So please inform us what we've all been speculating about...what is the woman in the article guilty of?KaiserB wrote:Three pages of speculative bull finally someone posts the law rather than making an unqualified statement about the law, or what they "think" the law said... the rest of you should take a lesson from this post.Songbird wrote:Schools ARE listed as an exception to the law (52.061) that keeps employers from prohibiting guns in their employees cars:
Sec. 52.062. EXCEPTIONS. (a) Section 52.061 does not:
(1) authorize a person who holds a license to carry a
concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully
possesses ammunition to possess a firearm or ammunition on any
property where the possession of a firearm or ammunition is
prohibited by state or federal law; or
(2) apply to:
(A) a vehicle owned or leased by a public or
private employer and used by an employee in the course and scope of
the employee's employment, unless the employee is required to
transport or store a firearm in the official discharge of the
employee's duties;
(B) a school district;
She bonded out: (all from public info)Ericstac wrote:I just looked her up and she isn't in barrios city or city of Huston jail systems.
And she doesn't have an open case going on Chris Daniels website either.
I don't have enough information to know if she's guilty of anything. The district clerk's website says "CARRY PROH WPN PROHBITED PLACE (F)" which sounds more like 46.03 than 46.04 but IANAL.ScottDLS wrote:So please inform us what we've all been speculating about...what is the woman in the article guilty of?
The Michael Berry show was brodcasting this entire thing this morning. He was asking the entire listening area for assistance for the lady.gdanaher wrote:Since this is in the Houston area, perhaps there is an attorney who reads these threads who might be willing to participate in the defense so that no hostile precedents are set.
ScottDLS wrote:And what you apparently missed in the three pages of speculative bull was that it was already pointed out several times that the parking lot bill has an exception for employees of a school. Songbird posted the language. However, the exception simply allows the school to fire her. It does not define a third degree felony. So please inform us what we've all been speculating about...what is the woman in the article guilty of?KaiserB wrote:Three pages of speculative bull finally someone posts the law rather than making an unqualified statement about the law, or what they "think" the law said... the rest of you should take a lesson from this post.Songbird wrote:Schools ARE listed as an exception to the law (52.061) that keeps employers from prohibiting guns in their employees cars:
Sec. 52.062. EXCEPTIONS. (a) Section 52.061 does not:
(1) authorize a person who holds a license to carry a
concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully
possesses ammunition to possess a firearm or ammunition on any
property where the possession of a firearm or ammunition is
prohibited by state or federal law; or
(2) apply to:
(A) a vehicle owned or leased by a public or
private employer and used by an employee in the course and scope of
the employee's employment, unless the employee is required to
transport or store a firearm in the official discharge of the
employee's duties;
(B) a school district;
Sorry, no it wouldn't. The only thing the parking lot law does is allow schools to set policy to not permit employees to not keep a gun in their vehicle. If they ignore that policy and posses a gun in their vehilce, it may be a policy violation, but is not illegal unless they cannot legally posses it in the first place.KaiserB wrote:
Since MPA does not apply to school district employees; that would leave this person as a school employee (contracted or otherwise) subject to the restrictions in 46.03 (a)(1)
Scroll down a bit in your reading and you will find penalties in PC 46.03 are listed in paragraph (g)
Reporters can't get anything right.Ericstac wrote:This was just on the news...
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8980058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Authorities say Kemp's co-worker put the gun in her car the night before, but when he tried to get it back she wouldn't give it to him.
Kemp has been a tutor at Fondren Middle since August of 2011. She was originally hired as a math tutor, but until Friday was most recently helping students with science. HISD says Kemp resigned in lieu of termination.
The district reiterates that safety is its top priority.
A law that went into effect in September 2011, makes it legal for anyone with a concealed handgun license to keep a gun locked up in their car at work, even if the workplace policy prohibits a guns on property. However, this law doesn't apply to schools and certain industrial sites.
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jmra wrote:Reporters can't get anything right.Ericstac wrote:This was just on the news...
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8980058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Authorities say Kemp's co-worker put the gun in her car the night before, but when he tried to get it back she wouldn't give it to him.
Kemp has been a tutor at Fondren Middle since August of 2011. She was originally hired as a math tutor, but until Friday was most recently helping students with science. HISD says Kemp resigned in lieu of termination.
The district reiterates that safety is its top priority.
A law that went into effect in September 2011, makes it legal for anyone with a concealed handgun license to keep a gun locked up in their car at work, even if the workplace policy prohibits a guns on property. However, this law doesn't apply to schools and certain industrial sites.
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I was referring to the story. It will change four or five times in the next few weeks until it morphs to an arsenal of M4s in the trunk.Ericstac wrote:jmra wrote:Reporters can't get anything right.Ericstac wrote:This was just on the news...
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8980058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Authorities say Kemp's co-worker put the gun in her car the night before, but when he tried to get it back she wouldn't give it to him.
Kemp has been a tutor at Fondren Middle since August of 2011. She was originally hired as a math tutor, but until Friday was most recently helping students with science. HISD says Kemp resigned in lieu of termination.
The district reiterates that safety is its top priority.
A law that went into effect in September 2011, makes it legal for anyone with a concealed handgun license to keep a gun locked up in their car at work, even if the workplace policy prohibits a guns on property. However, this law doesn't apply to schools and certain industrial sites.
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On the TV there was a lawyer or judge speaking saying that last paragraph.