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Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:17 pm
by philip964
TV news is reporting that the AR15 was not his, he took it from a dead guard he had shot is what they are saying.

Whole thing is very sad.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:08 am
by CHLLady
CNN piers Morgan is saying he bought the gun and is going on and on about the AR 15.

The man needs to go back to the UK. :mad5

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:09 am
by Beiruty
What about shoot-them up computer simulators(games)?

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:24 am
by Poldark
CHLLady wrote:CNN piers Morgan is saying he bought the gun and is going on and on about the AR 15.

The man needs to go back to the UK. :mad5
Yup :iagree:

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:27 am
by CHLLady
Beiruty wrote:What about shoot-them up computer simulators(games)?

I heard him mention them, but by then he was being tuned out. :nono:

He just gets more and more snarky and obnoxious as he goes on. Best interview ever was with GZ's brother. He was not railroading him.


What is really hitting me is that the shooter was at Carswell JRB, my family and I are on that base often throughout the month. Scary he was so close at one time. NO conceal carry on base.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:18 am
by Dragonfighter
Every base I've entered in the last few years has 100% ID check. Even Bellows AFS on Oahu which is a "reserve base" checked all of our IDs and scanned them as well. Here we have a man, not current as either reservists or contractor (from several MSM reports) enters one of the most secure bases in a city with the most restrictive gun laws with a shotgun and proceeds to take people out, get their weapons and take more people out.

Pelosi take your multi-lifted face back under the slimy rock you crawled out from. Piers, shut up. NCIS and FBI, find out who dropped the ball and nail them.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:26 am
by AEA
Dragonfighter wrote: Pelosi take your multi-lifted face back under the slimy rock you crawled out from. Piers, shut up. NCIS and FBI, find out who dropped the ball and nail them.
:iagree:

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:11 am
by Keith B
They say now he entered on his valid contractor ID and they are investigating if he used the shotgun he bought in a Virginia sporting goods store was used to kill a guard and take his AR-15 and 9mm pistol.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:31 am
by philip964
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... games.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Played call of duty for up to 16 hours a day.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:33 am
by nightmare69
Keith B wrote:They say now he entered on his valid contractor ID and they are investigating if he used the shotgun he bought in a Virginia sporting goods store was used to kill a guard and take his AR-15 and 9mm pistol.
Why would a soldier be carrying a civilian AR-15 and not a M4?
philip964 wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... games.html

Played call of duty for up to 16 hours a day.
Here we go.... Ive played COD, Battlefield, Halo and GTA for years and never had a problem. 99.9% of people who play first person shooters know that its just a game, not real life. I do not think games have anything to do with it. These games are rated M for mature (age 17+) for a reason. If they ban these games then they would have to do the same to tv shows and movies that show violence.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:39 am
by E.Marquez
nightmare69 wrote:
Keith B wrote:They say now he entered on his valid contractor ID and they are investigating if he used the shotgun he bought in a Virginia sporting goods store was used to kill a guard and take his AR-15 and 9mm pistol.
Why would a soldier be carrying a civilian AR-15 and not a M4?
philip964 wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... games.html

Played call of duty for up to 16 hours a day.
Here we go.... Ive played COD, Battlefield, Halo and GTA for years and never had a problem. 99.9% of people who play first person shooters know that its just a game, not real life. I do not think games have anything to do with it. These games are rated M for mature (age 17+) for a reason. If they ban these games then they would have to do the same to tv shows and movies that show violence.
1: The media rarely gets weapon description correct.
2: Lots of M16A3 still in use, Airforce, Navy, Marine and Army units
3: Been on a Military installation lately? Not a whole lot of Military "Guards" these days, though with cutbacks,, more and more every day.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:52 am
by bdickens
nightmare69 wrote: Why would a soldier be carrying a civilian AR-15 and not a M4?
Any time the military has something really important to guard, they hire civilians.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:47 am
by longhorn_92
CNN is now reporting that Federal agents retrieved 3 weapons... (1) shotgun and(2) handguns that he got from officers shot... There was no AR15.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:59 am
by dubya
I wonder what ole Joe Biden will say to the shooter's weapon being a shotgun? Joe?

Mentally ill, anger issues, sleep problems, HEARING VOICES....
known attacks on others...

No AR-15 involved but they all jump on it (Feinstein almost first)... It will be amazing to see what sputtering gun control advocates try to spin into another defective person attacking unarmed victims. Joe...what day is it? Mental health day.

Re: Active shooter on loose in US Navy yard.

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:00 am
by texanjoker
CNN which I never read, but due to the quotes above, is speculating if he even had an ar15.... They said he had a shot gun.
What we know: Federal law enforcement sources say authorities have recovered three weapons from the scene of the mass shooting, including one -- a shotgun -- that investigators believe he brought in to the compound. The other two weapons -- handguns -- the sources say, may have been taken from guards.
What we don't know: The sources, who have detailed knowledge of the investigation, cautioned that initial investigation information that an AR-15 rifle was used may have been incorrect. It is believed that Alexis had rented an AR-15, but returned it before Monday morning's shootings. Authorities are still investigating precisely how many weapons Alexis had access to and when.


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