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Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:35 pm
by jbarn
03Lightningrocks wrote::shock:

I am going to destroy my iPad. Sorry about the multiple posts.

Haahaaahaaa, do I know that feeling! :lol::

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:14 pm
by locke_n_load
03Lightningrocks wrote:After reading more of these threads debating open carry than I can count, I have noticed a couple common denominators. Not one person has ever posted,"I'm against open carry". Many have said they would not do it for one reason or the other but it is always posted that they would not be against it as long as it did not pose a risk to our CC rights.

I have also noticed the one and only concern anyone has ever expressed about changing the law to allow open carry is a concern for this creating less places we can conceal carry.

Do the open carry radicals express any desire to address these concerns? NEVER! Dismissing concerns expressed by others as irrelevant is not the same as addressing them.

There will never be open carry until this changes. Want open carry to be legalized? Start proposing solutions that will address the one and only objection ever expressed by the ONLY people in this state who you might be able to persuade to join your cause.
I am a proponent of open carry. I would not want to change 30.06 at all. I am for signage that would be vastly different and not related to 30.06 if someone wanted to prohibit OC in their business. I will OC regularly when it passes. That pretty much takes care of it. Thanks.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:29 pm
by tbrown
If nothing else, this discussion made me appreciate why the Democrats think Texas is ripe for the picking.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:33 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
tbrown wrote:If nothing else, this discussion made me appreciate why the Democrats think Texas is ripe for the picking.
Only Austin. :smilelol5:

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:45 pm
by tbrown
I live near there. Most of them can't hold a candle to people pushing "reasonable restrictions" on gun forums.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:53 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
tbrown wrote:I live near there. Most of them can't hold a candle to people pushing "reasonable restrictions" on gun forums.
That is just silly. ;-). It is also a great example of why OC radicals, not proponents only the radicals, will never achieve anything. You will never win over the masses by insulting them.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:34 pm
by kjolly
Long time ago, before the civil war Texas had open carry. After the civil war open carry was revoked. Personally I like leather and have some good looking leather to show off.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:24 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
tbrown wrote:I live near there. Most of them can't hold a candle to people pushing "reasonable restrictions" on gun forums.
Please show us the restrictions you mean.

Chas.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:43 pm
by rockinar
rp_photo wrote:Given the state's otherwise pro-gun climate and the fact that many more anti states allow open carry (at least in theory), it makes no sense at all that Texas forbids it.

I'm sure there are many ongoing discussions about this, so my apologies for any duplication.


We don't need open carry, we cave concealed carry. The only reason I support open carry is for comfort. I still think it it needs to be covered though.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:04 pm
by gringo pistolero
rockinar wrote:
rp_photo wrote:Given the state's otherwise pro-gun climate and the fact that many more anti states allow open carry (at least in theory), it makes no sense at all that Texas forbids it.

I'm sure there are many ongoing discussions about this, so my apologies for any duplication.


We don't need open carry, we cave concealed carry. The only reason I support open carry is for comfort. I still think it it needs to be covered though.
We don't need to carry revolvers if we can carry semiautomatics? :mrgreen:

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:30 pm
by cb1000rider
03Lightningrocks wrote:You will never win over the masses by insulting them.
But it works just fine on individuals?

Austin is already Democratic. It's already been picked.
Worry about the rest of the state, especially since we're facing shifting demographics. I don't think exclusionary political policy is a viable long term strategy in Texas.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:08 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
cb1000rider wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:You will never win over the masses by insulting them.
But it works just fine on individuals.

Austin is already Democratic. It's already been picked.
Worry about the rest of the state, especially since we're facing shifting demographics. I don't think exclusionary political policy is a viable long term strategy in Texas.
The individual is the path to the whole group. If OC is ever to have a chance at passing, open carry proponents MUST win over as much support as possible. They will not win support by alienating gun owners, be it individually or as a group. I am not sure how you think insulting individuals will lead to the passage of OC.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:22 pm
by cb1000rider
03L,
I'm pointing out a little "do as I say, not as I do" - that's all. Clearly, you're capable of providing well thought out rational advice.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:49 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
cb1000rider wrote:03L,
I'm pointing out a little "do as I say, not as I do" - that's all.
This is not applicable here. I am not the one needing the support of the masses. I have no cause I am trumpeting. You seem to have it backwards. If you are addressing my referring to OC radicals who carry mass murderer style rifles through malls as morons, you are a bit late to the table on that one. That issue was addressed and put away many posts back.

With that said, is your only reason for posting just now to stir the pot? Maybe grand stand for your perceived fan base? It sure looks like it. I see no other reason for you to address me with your seriously misplaced sense of moral superiority. I suppose we are done now.

Re: Why exactly does Texas not have open carry?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:54 pm
by Keith B
OK guys, keep the discussions civil and on a business-like basis or this will be locked. We are tired of these open carry threads turning into finger pointing and shoving matches.