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Iranian troops don't have to be impressive, just ok (and there a lot of them).

Egypt has M1 tanks and modern attack helicopters.

if Italy can't defend itself from these hacks they deserve to fall.

Iranian troops don't have to be impressive, just ok (and there a lot of them).

In the 70's they never reached the level of "OK"

Egypt has M1 tanks and modern attack helicopters.

And when ISIS threatens to kill their families at home, and they abandon their equipment as they did in the '67 war, and these tanks fall into ISIS hands, just like the troops that fled in Iraq, guess who has them now.

if Italy can't defend itself from these hacks they deserve to fall

By "hacks" do you mean "junior varsity?"

No worries though, the sea will keep the Italians safe, just like the Atlantic and Pacific oceans did for us on 9/11.

G26ster wrote:

Iranian troops don't have to be impressive, just ok (and there a lot of them).

In the 70's they never reached the level of "OK"

Thirty years ago. They've become petrobarons since.

Egypt has M1 tanks and modern attack helicopters.

And when ISIS threatens to kill their families at home, and they abandon their equipment as they did in the '67 war, and these tanks fall into ISIS hands, just like the troops that fled in Iraq, guess who has them now.

They didn't flee in 1974. if this tactic worked the Muslim brotherhood would have been in power decades ago.

if Italy can't defend itself from these hacks they deserve to fall

By "hacks" do you mean "junior varsity?"

No worries though, the sea will keep the Italians safe, just like the Atlantic and Pacific oceans did for us on 9/11.

I mean 3rd world wannabees driving Toyota pickups. Italy is a modern state. The thought Italy could be successfully invaded is hilarious.
Invading Libya won't stop terrorists on an airplane. Airplane security stops terrorists on an airplane.

Not our fight/war, eh?

IIRC, the United States wasn't particularly interested in getting involved with the Japs and the Germans back in 1939-1941 until the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor and German U-Boats started sinking US ships.

Oldgringo wrote:Not our fight/war, eh?

IIRC, the United States wasn't particularly interested in getting involved with the Japs and the Germans back in 1939-1941 until the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor and German U-Boats started sinking US ships.

Japanese attacked after the US led and oil blockade of Japan for its depredations in China. Instead of using it as an excuse to save face and pull back (they were hopelessly bogged down in China) they decided to go berzerko.

Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around.

The ME/North Africa has been in turmoil since Cain and Abel. Nothing will do has changed that. Nothing we do will change that.

If you feel the need, you go.

^exactly

People don't understand how hard these people actually are. My impressions of the local nationals I dealt with in Afghanistan left me thinking all afghans are weak minded and parasitic.

After going south east to Kandahar and seeing some legit fighters I realized these guys have some balls, and have nothing to lose. They have been fighting for thousands of years and there's nothing we can do to change that.

And here's a nother reason we should not get involved.

I don't want to send American to die to protect THESE GUYS.
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Saudis are critical. Not seeing where the vaunted Saudi army has launched an all at battle to stop them.