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When you post something like this you should also cite your source.Killadocg23 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:16 pm Apparently news is going round that the guy killed and the cop actually knew each other and had “dated” before. Don’t know how true that is but I’ve read and seen it several places.
https://usdailyreport.com/2018/09/07/bo ... n_942.htmlmojo84 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:22 pmWhen you post something like this you should also cite your source.Killadocg23 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:16 pm Apparently news is going round that the guy killed and the cop actually knew each other and had “dated” before. Don’t know how true that is but I’ve read and seen it several places.
Nothing but a bunch of speculation at the link you posted. The poster I quoted said there is "news" going around.flechero wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:44 pmhttps://usdailyreport.com/2018/09/07/bo ... n_942.htmlmojo84 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:22 pmWhen you post something like this you should also cite your source.Killadocg23 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:16 pm Apparently news is going round that the guy killed and the cop actually knew each other and had “dated” before. Don’t know how true that is but I’ve read and seen it several places.
Looks like a lot more than originally reported.
My apologies for trying to be helpful. I had just seen that link in another place and offered it up as a possible source of info.mojo84 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:10 pmNothing but a bunch of speculation at the link you posted. The poster I quoted said there is "news" going around.flechero wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:44 pmhttps://usdailyreport.com/2018/09/07/bo ... n_942.htmlmojo84 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:22 pmWhen you post something like this you should also cite your source.Killadocg23 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:16 pm Apparently news is going round that the guy killed and the cop actually knew each other and had “dated” before. Don’t know how true that is but I’ve read and seen it several places.
Looks like a lot more than originally reported.
philip964 wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:14 pm https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas- ... ng-suspect
Office named.
Never met victim.
ELB wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:17 am Man that is not good. If that happened as first reported, she was eligible to be legally shot by the resident.
Of Course not. He would be sitting in a jail cell just as if it would have been me or you.spectre wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:01 pmELB wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:17 am Man that is not good. If that happened as first reported, she was eligible to be legally shot by the resident.
Unless the door was wide open, the killer unlawfully and with force entered the victim's occupied habitation. Deadly force is presumed justified against the armed intruder.
However, if the victim had shot her, and he survived, does anybody really think he would be treated as gently by the so called justice system as she is being treated?
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas- ... icial-says (limited number of free views)spectre wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:01 pmELB wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:17 am Man that is not good. If that happened as first reported, she was eligible to be legally shot by the resident.
Unless the door was wide open, the killer unlawfully and with force entered the victim's occupied habitation. Deadly force is presumed justified against the armed intruder.
However, if the victim had shot her, and he survived, does anybody really think he would be treated as gently by the so called justice system as she is being treated?
Guyger, who was still in uniform, put her key in the door, which was unlocked, and the door opened, the official said. The lights were out. She saw a figure in the darkness and thought her apartment was being burglarized, the official said. Guyger pulled her gun and fired twice.
When she turned on the lights, she realized she was in the wrong apartment. Jean, who worked for PricewaterhouseCoopers, was shot once in the chest.
No proof of prior intent. She obviously intended to shoot him.Soccerdad1995 wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:18 pm We empower LEO's with the ability to arrest and imprison our fellow citizens. This responsibility should come with a higher standard of acceptable behavior than we have for the citizenry as a whole. We don't yet know all the facts here. But I do know that this officer should be held to at least the same standard that would apply if I (a non-LEO) did the same thing she did.
Assuming that the LEO's story is true, that means I would be out on bond right now if I mistakenly enter a LEO's home and then proceed to shoot and kill them. I honestly could see that happening (assuming the bond here is very high, of course). Also, from what I understand of the law, manslaughter is the correct charge absent proof of intent. But obviously we also need the myriad add-on charges including UCW since she was carrying a weapon while committing a felony, etc. I would expect that this LEO will be in another line of work after serving her prison sentence, and also will never be able to legally own a firearm in the future.
IANAL, but if there is no proof of prior intent to kill the man, that means this isn't murder, right? That's why I said that to my layperson's brain, the charge of manslaughter makes sense. But I'm a bit confused by your post. Are you agreeing with me, or disagreeing?WTR wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:36 pmNo proof of prior intent. She obviously intended to shoot him.Soccerdad1995 wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:18 pm We empower LEO's with the ability to arrest and imprison our fellow citizens. This responsibility should come with a higher standard of acceptable behavior than we have for the citizenry as a whole. We don't yet know all the facts here. But I do know that this officer should be held to at least the same standard that would apply if I (a non-LEO) did the same thing she did.
Assuming that the LEO's story is true, that means I would be out on bond right now if I mistakenly enter a LEO's home and then proceed to shoot and kill them. I honestly could see that happening (assuming the bond here is very high, of course). Also, from what I understand of the law, manslaughter is the correct charge absent proof of intent. But obviously we also need the myriad add-on charges including UCW since she was carrying a weapon while committing a felony, etc. I would expect that this LEO will be in another line of work after serving her prison sentence, and also will never be able to legally own a firearm in the future.