Page 5 of 5

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:02 am
by Bitterclinger
Liberty wrote:
Bitterclinger wrote:
Nnyokaye LIberty, I appreciate all the hard work looking up stuff in online dictionaries and all, but it was just a joke. Sorry you had to go through all those contortions to straighten me out. I guess I kind-of thought it was obvious. Next time, I'll try to remember to include a funny emoticon.
Yeah, I probably over responded. Its sort of a pet peave of mine though. There are some people who can't help but correct people over the use of the words like Gun vs Rifle, Pistol vs Revolver and even clip vs magazine. It annoys me because usually they are wrong about the context. And even when they are correct in the case of Magazine vs Clip. I find the term Pistol magazine more confusing and vague than the incorrect term "pistol clip".

No harm, no foul. I think you're right. This topic tends to attract more than its fair share of instant experts and authorities. In the grammar world they call it "hypercorrection." It usually occurs when a writers need to be respected is overwhelmed by his need to be right. I once quoted the famous Churchill line he reportedly wrote in response to an editor rearranging his sentence to avoid ending with a prepostion: "This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put." I immediately got three very serious corrections telling me that Churchill never said that, and one informing me that I had misspelled "errant". :shock:

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:15 am
by jimlongley
tornado wrote:Candice Bergin in Miss Congeniality

http://www.hark.com/clips/vblztmwzhq-my ... -has-a-gun" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I heard a rumor, probably apocryphal, that Sandra Bullock, being a Texan herself, had contributed that little piece to the movie. Considering what I have heard about her on guns, it probably is just a legend.
Liberty wrote:
Bitterclinger wrote:
Nnyokaye LIberty, I appreciate all the hard work looking up stuff in online dictionaries and all, but it was just a joke. Sorry you had to go through all those contortions to straighten me out. I guess I kind-of thought it was obvious. Next time, I'll try to remember to include a funny emoticon.
Yeah, I probably over responded. Its sort of a pet peave of mine though. There are some people who can't help but correct people over the use of the words like Gun vs Rifle, Pistol vs Revolver and even clip vs magazine. It annoys me because usually they are wrong about the context. And even when they are correct in the case of Magazine vs Clip. I find the term Pistol magazine more confusing and vague than the incorrect term "pistol clip".
I used to have a pistol that took clips, not magazines. Broomhandle Mausers, among others with fixed magazines, used stripper clips to load as an alternative to feeding one round at a time through the ejection port, thus the term "pistol clip" is not incorrect. And even today it is easy to find revolvers that use clips.

These days the term gun has morphed into a generic term for firearm, but when I was a kid the terms were apparently better understood than they are today. We had several "guns" in the household, and not all of them were shotguns, and we had pistols and revolvers, and clips and magazines for both pistols and rifles.

Of course language usage changes over time, and we can expect no less of "gun" terms, even if it distresses the perfectionists in some of us. The recent debate about "assault rifles" is one good example, with the term being bandied about as if we all knew exactly what it meant. The problem is that although I know what I think it means, it means something different to you, and yet something else to our legislators, and Andy Cuomo and Dianne Feinstein think it includes everything but smooth bore muskets (and don't get me started on "ancient" terminology.)

Terms morph into our language, and out, over long periods and the result, in my own opinion, is a dumbing down of the language, heck, even the French have raised a stink about too many "American" terms creeping into their language. And around the turn of the 19th to 20th century, you didn't use the term "jazz" in polite company without risking a punch in the nose.

Misspellings creep into everyday usage, and I am guilty of it too, and misuse due to misunderstanding of terms make some peoples' language almost incomprehensible at times ("peeve" vs "peave" if you will, I have used a "Peavy", but don't know if that means I have "peaved" or not :lol: ) and the creep of twitter terms reminds this old ham and railroad nut of Phillips Code and the abbreviations necessary to save bandwidth.

One of my favorites these days is calling the device that we input numbers into our telephones with a "dial" when it obviously isn't anywhere near round, and I'll bet that most users have no idea why it is called that, or how to tell when a clock says "quarter of" or "quarter after."

I do dislike the change of the language in some cases, and I will continue to challenge the terminology of clip vs magazine and rifle vs shotgun, but we have to realize that as much as we may decry the change, because the general population fails to understand the distinctions, or worse, doesn't care, that certain terms are bound to become everyday descriptions of things they don't describe.

[/rant] <--- such as!

ETA:

"We should not write so that it is possible for the reader to understand us, but so that it is impossible for him to misunderstand us." -Quintilian (Marcus Fabius Quintilianus), rhetorician (c. 35-100)

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:44 pm
by jmorris
ClarkLZeuss wrote:Other ideas for a response:

SELF-EFFACING: "Well I was a little fat for Karate, so here we are."

REASSURING: "Don't worry, the safety's on."

POLITICAL: "It's one less gun the Feds can send to Mexico."

CONFRONTATIONAL: "I'm not afraid to fight for my safety. Why, are you?"
MAKE THEM WONDER: "Because the voice says bad things will happen if I don't!


The voice being your conscience of course.

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:57 am
by stevie_d_64
The Annoyed Man wrote:I think of myself as an ambassador for the 2nd Amendment, and if they want to have the discussion, I am willing.
:thumbs2:

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:44 pm
by Dragonfighter
ClarkLZeuss wrote:Other ideas for a response:

SELF-EFFACING: "Well I was a little fat for Karate, so here we are."

REASSURING: "Don't worry, the safety's on."

POLITICAL: "It's one less gun the Feds can send to Mexico."

CONFRONTATIONAL: "I'm not afraid to fight for my safety. Why, are you?"
Okay Cyrano, at least 14 more.

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:40 pm
by IChangIT
Because I was stationed in Italy for many years and didn't have the right to own guns much less carry them. Now I'm making up for lost time and exercising my rights.

-RC

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:51 pm
by ClarkLZeuss
Dragonfighter wrote: Okay Cyrano, at least 14 more.
You calling me a big nose?

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:14 am
by Dragonfighter
You love the little birds, I think? I see you’ve managed with a fond research to find their tiny claws a roomy perch!
"rlol"

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:22 am
by RoyGBiv
Was in Cabela's weekend before last.
While walking in/out of the ammo aisles (sobbing quietly :mrgreen: ) I pass by a table with two ladies handing out literature.
Lady: Do you have a CHL?
Me: This is Texas, doesn't EVERYONE?
(I'm always non-committal when I'm asked a question like that in public...)

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:13 am
by x007x
glock27 wrote:
Wes wrote:I've only had one friend say that and when I replied, yea, everytime I've been with you the past year! He went, oh, really? Hmmm...that was it. He's even called out a 51% sign for me since. Every attempt to get him to the range has unfortunately failed tho.

anyone have a friend or relative who has pointed out a gunbuster sign???

my mom asked me discretely inside Buffalo Wild Wings once. "Did you see that sign on the door?!?!? i hope you left in in your truck!"

it was cute and funny lol
They never understand the rules behind 30.06

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:20 am
by x007x
Kythas wrote:Last week my wife and I were headed out to one of the big box stores.

I strapped my sidearm on, which she's used to. Then I clipped on my two extra mags, which I guess she hasn't seen me do too often, even though I almost always have them on me.

She said "You expecting a shootout today?"

I said "Nope. If I were expecting a shootout, we wouldn't be going."

She has her CHL but almost never carries.
Then what's the point? You spent the money and have taken the test to carry, and you ave a right. Also, to stay alive in a situation.

Re: "You carry a GUN?!"

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:24 am
by x007x
Beiruty wrote:
Bitterclinger wrote:No mam, a gun is a breach loaded artillery piece used to deploy an explosive filled shell larger than thirty millimeters in diameter at high velocities over long distances. Guys who carry guns usually use a ship, a tank, or at least a great big truck.

pronto! I never understood the word handgun anyway. A gun in your hand is something physically impossible. Pistol and a revolver is what I prefer to use to describe a handheld firearm.
Unless your talking about barret from FF7. :biggrinjester: