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KLB wrote:Even if it were a traffic ticket, those are generally Class C misdemeanors. It's Classes A and B that are disqualifying.

Yeah but if you fail to pay a class C, they can eventually charge you with a class B for the failure to appear.

healthinsp wrote:As a former EMT, having pulled seriously injured bodies out of T-boned cars from red light runners, if there is something that reduces broad-sides I can support that.

The important question is not if it reduces t-bone collisions, but improves safety overall. Rear end collisions can be just as deadly as t-bone collisions. Even if they were generally less severe (and I think, without studying it, that they probably are), if it causes more injuries or more damage, it becomes a very important question on how you improve safety.

I appreciate debating the safety increase or decrease of the cameras because it avoids the debates on rights and if we should be using these kinds of tools.

We could also ask if there were better ways to solve this problem. My personal favorite is to delay the green for a few seconds after the other side goes red. See if a couple seconds of red all around improves things.

Another question we need to look at in the studies, and I do not know how to do this, is to see if the cameras reduce the accidents caused by people who run the light after it has been red for awhile versus getting there as it turns yellow and not quite making the yellow light.

JP171 wrote:ok so lets see, the ihhs the group that is paid and bought by the automobile industry is very good,

Just a minor technical correction but the IIHS has nothing to do with the automotive industry. It is bought and paid for by the insurance industry, as its name implies (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety). As a general rule, they are in favor of anything which they believe can reduce the amount of money insurance companies pay out in claims.

healthinsp wrote: What proof do you have of cherry picked statistics? Do you have access to the full research data? Do you have access to studies that show differently?

I see this post and the same questions go back to you. If you haven't seen the full research data and studies, why do you believe what they are saying?

I imagine there is research going on in this country that has no bias, but I am not thinking of what it might be.

I posted a link to the IHHS research. Items 9 and 10 do the best of addressing the questions. They reference multiple studies done in multiple states.

From personal experience, I can say you can get a Chl with a seriously outstanding unpaid camera ticket. I did.

Van in my name. Wife driving. Guilty. Call it a rolling right on red.

It was about six months overdue when I started the Chl process. I got my license in 6 weeksish.