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Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:20 pm
by baldeagle
stroo wrote:Holder is ordering a second autopsy.
It is despicable that a public official with the power he has would do this. Essentially what he's doing is saying we cannot trust the local medical examiner. We cannot trust the police. He is exacerbating rather than calming the problem. It is well past time for public officials charged with maintaining justice in this country to shed themselves of all politics and assume a neutral stance in every matter that comes before them. Actions like this push us perilously close to an edge that we cannot come back from.
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:08 pm
by Jumping Frog
Here is an entrepreneurial solution on Craigslist:
Roof Koreans for hire (Ferguson)
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:48 pm
by Excaliber
Next time someone asks why anyone would need an AR or AK, there is now a fresh one word self explanatory answer:
Ferguson.
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:29 pm
by philip964
My anti gun brother in law has been unusually quiet on line this week.
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:08 pm
by baldeagle
A private autopsy performed for the Brown family found that he was shot six times, four times in the arm, and all from the front.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/mi ... share&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Contrary to Brown's friend, he was never shot in the back. The medical examiner said the fatal wound was to the top of his head.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
So the forensic exam cannot confirm, but potentially corroborates, the officer's story. Hopefully, the preponderance of the evidence and witness statements will reveal the truth about what happened.
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:39 am
by jmra
baldeagle wrote:A private autopsy performed for the Brown family found that he was shot six times, four times in the arm, and all from the front.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/mi ... share&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Contrary to Brown's friend, he was never shot in the back. The medical examiner said the fatal wound was to the top of his head.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.”
So the forensic exam cannot confirm, but potentially corroborates, the officer's story. Hopefully, the preponderance of the evidence and witness statements will reveal the truth about what happened.
Makes sense now that the guy was able to continue approaching the officer after being shot as it appears 4 of the shots were in the arm. Location, location, location (translated: Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement).
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:01 am
by rbwhatever1
The media is fueling the fire on this one. Instead of continued headlines of "fatal shooting of unarmed black teen" why isn't it "fatal shooting of black teen who just robbed a store and attacked a Police Officer"?
National Guard on the way...
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Missouri's governor on Monday ordered the National Guard to a St. Louis suburb convulsed by protests over the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen, after a night in which police used tear gas to clear protesters off the streets well ahead of a curfew.
Gov. Jay Nixon said the National Guard would help "in restoring peace and order" to Ferguson, where protests over the killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown by a white police officer entered their second week. Police said they acted in response to gunfire, looting, vandalism and protesters who hurled Molotov cocktails.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/271634201.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:16 am
by philip964
Third autopsy ordered by Holder. I guess it is: coroner, famous TV autopsy guy, and Holder. Apparently Michael Brown is being referred to in some circles as the "Gentle Giant". National Guard being called in.
Photos show the towns retail area with a lot of boarded up stores.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... es-photos/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:24 am
by Excaliber
rbwhatever1 wrote:The media is fueling the fire on this one. Instead of continued headlines of "fatal shooting of unarmed black teen" why isn't it "fatal shooting of black teen who just robbed a store and attacked a Police Officer"?
National Guard on the way...
FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Missouri's governor on Monday ordered the National Guard to a St. Louis suburb convulsed by protests over the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen, after a night in which police used tear gas to clear protesters off the streets well ahead of a curfew.
Gov. Jay Nixon said the National Guard would help "in restoring peace and order" to Ferguson, where protests over the killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown by a white police officer entered their second week. Police said they acted in response to gunfire, looting, vandalism and protesters who hurled Molotov cocktails.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/271634201.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If the media were truly neutral and working to inform rather than inflame, this would indeed not make sense. However, since that's not true, I can suggest 4 likely reasons to explain this abhorrent behavior, based on past media action and their extreme bias against a constitutionally governed nation ruled by laws:
1. Bumping up viewership and advertising revenues for news outlets that thinking people routinely ignore because they're biased and not credible (e.g. Huffpo, whose reporter held up a pair of disposable foam earplugs and asked if they were rubber bullets).
2. Attempting to increase outrage and violence to help spin things out of control in other cities. In the present climate if other innocent community members are killed / injured as a result of law enforcement action taken in response to rioting it is likely that will ignite more Ferguson type situations in other parts of the country. Remember that Obama's team looks for and uses crises to accomplish what they can't when people are thinking clearly, and every time he "accomplishes" something part of our few remaining liberty die.
3. Targeting officer Wilson in the hope that some radical will attack or kill him or his family to increase anger among police and up the chances of unnecessarily harsh police actions in support of #2 above. There can be no other reasonable explanation for the media who bemoaned the release of Brown's store robbery video going ahead and publishing maps to the officer's house and photos of his home in a volatile situation like this.
4. Attempting to drive up democrat voter turnout in an election that's shaping up to be a disaster for the democrats. Keeping the violence going as long and intensively as possible will be needed to accomplish this one. "Remember Ferguson - Vote Democrat".
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:43 am
by A-R
Another good article from a LEO:
http://www.thebangswitch.com/ferguson-m ... le-moment/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:02 pm
by philip964
Excaliber wrote:rbwhatever1 wrote:
4. Attempting to drive up democrat voter turnout in an election that's shaping up to be a disaster for the democrats. Keeping the violence going as long and intensively as possible will be needed to accomplish this one. "Remember Ferguson - Vote Democrat".
Bingo, we have a winner.
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:27 pm
by suthdj
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:12 pm
by Pawpaw
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:05 am
by VMI77
Brown was a towering hulk of a thug that had just robbed a store and assaulted the clerk. The video of the assault makes this absolutely clear. His buddy, the "witness," was his accomplice. How come Al and Jessie aren't in NJ protesting the treatment of the young black woman and single mother being persecuted for having a gun in her possession without a felony record?
Re: Vandalism, looting in Missouri after Officer Shooting
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:03 pm
by knotquiteawake
Just heard there was another officer involved shooting in that area. A nutcase with a knife held up a convenience store. When confronted by police he tried to attack and was promptly shot and killed.
A coworker was the one who brought it up to me. I commented that sounds like what happens when you attack the police with a knife. She was upset that they shot to kill him. I tried to explain that shooting to maim doesn't exist. If you're using your gun you're shooting center of mass until the threat is stopped. She said that was wrong. I tried to explain how difficult it would be to shoot something like a moving leg. She claimed to have shot a gun before and that cops should be better shots than us.... Now that I know how she really feels I'll be keeping my mouth shut about this whole incident and topic. I also mentioned that the officer in the Brown shooting had a fractured eye socket but she doesn't care much about that either, probably doesn't support the narrative she wants to believe.
I gotta learn to keep my mouth shut about these things. Don't want a visit from HR or anything...
