Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:26 pm
Travis County (Austin) Apprasal district has a sign that is almost a 3006 sign but the wording is not completely right
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Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:51 pm
East Texas gun shows that are held in city owned buildings are posted during the show. The Modd Cobb convention building in Longview and the Harvey Hall convention center in Tyler are both posted during the gun show.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:12 pm
Austin gun shows in Cedar Park Texas are correctly posted on city owned buildings.
Querying the LEOs at that location, they indicated that they wouldn't arrest on the issue.
Querying the LEOs at that location, they indicated that they wouldn't arrest on the issue.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:58 pm
How does one file a complaint against a City for improper 30.06 postings?
I live in a small town that has a PD with the front door posted 30.06. As far as I am aware there is the PD dispatch and records/PD offices at this location. Also City hall is also posted with the 30.06. The two buildings are separate. There is a room for council meetings and the utilities department.
For what the law states that they cannot post it off limits, unless, there is voting going on or a council meeting is actually in progress.
Am I wrong?
Has the Texas AG addressed this in an opinion? Can I as a private citizen with a CHL ask for such an opinion?
I live in a small town that has a PD with the front door posted 30.06. As far as I am aware there is the PD dispatch and records/PD offices at this location. Also City hall is also posted with the 30.06. The two buildings are separate. There is a room for council meetings and the utilities department.
For what the law states that they cannot post it off limits, unless, there is voting going on or a council meeting is actually in progress.
Am I wrong?
Has the Texas AG addressed this in an opinion? Can I as a private citizen with a CHL ask for such an opinion?
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:37 pm
Small town? Know anyone one the city council? Or go to a city council meeting and bring to their attention. The city attorney will likely be at the meeting.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:42 pm
Take a copy/ copies of the law with exemption highlighted. Hand them to council and city attorney.airbornecpa wrote:Small town? Know anyone one the city council? Or go to a city council meeting and bring to there attention. The city attorney will likely be at the meeting.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:15 pm
So in our new laws that went in afect today! The one On the legal posting of the 30.06 sign!! I guess it failed ?
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:02 am
Correct. That bill did not pass during the last session.JT69 wrote:So in our new laws that went in afect today! The one On the legal posting of the 30.06 sign!! I guess it failed ?
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:45 am
Ok thanks that's what I thought! It's a shame
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:14 am
I've been out of the state/country for 13 years and I'm still brushing up on all my TX CC rules/laws. However, the city recreation center here in Harker Heights has posted the 30.06 sign. Harker Heights is a suburb in vicinity of Fort Hood. The City Hall and public library do not have the 30.06 sign. My two oldest children take fencing lessons there at the rec center. When I asked why the sign was posted, the response was that one of the employee's boyfriends had threatened her. Makes no sense. If there is an example letter out there that would help me write the city counsel then I would greatly appreciate it if someone would post it or point me in the right direction.
Thanks,
Shepherd
MAJ, USA
Thanks,
Shepherd
MAJ, USA
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:25 am
Just outside Waco, the Carleen Bright Arboretum in Woodway (a beautiful arboretum, by the way) is on city property, and they recently posted a 30.06 sign on the welcome board that you drive past upon entering.
Below is what I sent to the manager of the arboretum. She did reply and said she'd pass along the information.
Below is what I sent to the manager of the arboretum. She did reply and said she'd pass along the information.
In the Texas Penal Code, 30.06 (the very section that prescribes
the method of the posting of these signs) it says under
subsection (e):
"(e) It is an exception to the application of this section
that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun
is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises
or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from
carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035."
In other words, if it's government property and carry is not
prohibited for another reason (such as being a bar or a
courthouse, etc) then the 30.06 sign is unenforceable.
This does not mean the sign at the arboretum is illegal or
otherwise unlawful. But it does mean that it is completely
un-necessary and unenforceable.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:51 am
HB508 would have stopped these blatant attempts to intimidate Texans by creating a $10,500 a day per sign fine for governmental entities and agencies posting unenforceable 30.06 signs. Thanks to Sen. Dan Patrick, we don't have that bill and now he wants to be Lt. Governor and control legislation that gets to the floor in the Senate.
Chas.
Chas.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:01 am
And that's why I am supporting Jerry Patterson for Lt. Governor. Abbott and Patterson, it doesn't get better than that for true 2nd Amendment support!Charles L. Cotton wrote:HB508 would have stopped these blatant attempts to intimidate Texans by creating a $10,500 a day per sign fine for governmental entities and agencies posting unenforceable 30.06 signs. Thanks to Sen. Dan Patrick, we don't have that bill and now he wants to be Lt. Governor and control legislation that gets to the floor in the Senate.
Chas.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:25 am
City of West University Place, TX has a 30.06 sign on their Rec Center on Bellaire Blvd and West Point St. Wording appears correct, but it is very difficult to read, and photograph, since it is not on a contrasting background.
Re: Cities improperly posting 30.06 signs?
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:36 pm
An invalid sign is no more or less invalid because of wrong contrast, letter size, wording etc. It's just plain invalid from the git go.karlac wrote:City of West University Place, TX has a 30.06 sign on their Rec Center on Bellaire Blvd and West Point St. Wording appears correct, but it is very difficult to read, and photograph, since it is not on a contrasting background.
