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Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:27 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:52 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Keith B wrote:
I learned a long time ago to not let your mouth overload your butt when it comes to a defensive shooting. I have seen too many cases of someone who eventually was found justified, get really bloody in the investigation because of their macho attitude or bravado prior to or after the shoot. Take the Joe Horn case for instance. While he was eventually found justified, he received a ton of bad press and skepticism because of the statements he was making to the 911 dispatcher prior to the shoot. Had he been less vocal and less bold he would have not had near the negative attention on him while the investigation was in progress.
if I have ever read a post with more truth, I don't remember it. I always believed that Joe Horn shot off his mouth way more than he should. Bernard Getze made the same mistake. It is always best to be humble about ones abilities or capabilities
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Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:40 pm
by Tamie
Maybe in the future people will learn from Joe's mistake and shoot the burglars first. Call 911 to clean up the mess.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:55 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Tamie wrote:Maybe in the future people will learn from Joe's mistake and shoot the burglars first. Call 911 to clean up the mess.
And call an attorney before speaking to the police. This would be an occasion where having an attorney in advance would be a real asset.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:01 pm
by srothstein
Keith B wrote:LEO's don't put signs in front of their houses saying 'A LEO lives here'.
Not only are there no signs, but very few LEOs let people know where they live. Most keep their phone number unlisted/unpublished to help keep it secret. And most government records that have home addresses (like property tax and city/state employment) are considered confidential and not open records if the person is a peace officer or judge.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:13 pm
by CompVest
srothstein wrote:Keith B wrote:LEO's don't put signs in front of their houses saying 'A LEO lives here'.
Not only are there no signs, but very few LEOs let people know where they live. Most keep their phone number unlisted/unpublished to help keep it secret. And most government records that have home addresses (like property tax and city/state employment) are considered confidential and not open records if the person is a peace officer or judge.
However, quite a few LEOs drive their squad cars home and park them right out in front!
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:34 pm
by WildBill
CompVest wrote:srothstein wrote:Keith B wrote:LEO's don't put signs in front of their houses saying 'A LEO lives here'.
Not only are there no signs, but very few LEOs let people know where they live. Most keep their phone number unlisted/unpublished to help keep it secret. And most government records that have home addresses (like property tax and city/state employment) are considered confidential and not open records if the person is a peace officer or judge.
However, quite a few LEOs drive their squad cars home and park them right out in front!
Which would you prefer, an unlisted phone number or a company car?
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:10 pm
by megs
Carrying a badge is not impersonating a cop. If it was, thousands of security guards would be in jail. The way I read Texas Occupations Code, chapter 1702, if it's legal for security guards to wear badges, then it's legal for us as long as we don't use any of the restricted words.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:03 pm
by pbwalker
megs wrote:The way I read Texas Occupations Code, chapter 1702, if it's legal for security guards to wear badges, then it's legal for us as long as we don't use any of the restricted words.
How so? We're not security guards and carrying a CHL is not an occupation. I fail to see the link between the two...
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:11 pm
by megs
Here's the part you missed.
Carrying a badge is not impersonating a cop. If it was, thousands of security guards would be in jail.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:58 pm
by pbwalker
megs wrote:Here's the part you missed.
Carrying a badge is not impersonating a cop. If it was, thousands of security guards would be in jail.
No, no I didn't. I understand them to be covered by Texas Occupations Code, chapter 1702 (specifically, ยง1702.323, Section (d)). What I fail to see is how that correlates to CHL's? It is not impersonation as a security guard is covered under this statute. Are CHL licensees (who are not sec. guards) somehow covered under this? I don't think so...
To somehow tie this to CHL licensees is the point I am missing. How does the fact private security can carry under 1702 tie in to CHL's?
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:57 pm
by jester
It's been said:
In Germany, that which is not permitted is prohibited.
In America, that which is not prohibited is permitted.
In Italy, even that which is prohibited is permitted.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:30 pm
by almostfree
I actually had a CHL instructor encourage the use of a CHL badge to a class. That was when I stopped paying attention.
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:28 pm
by jester
almostfree wrote:I actually had a CHL instructor encourage the use of a CHL badge to a class. That was when I stopped paying attention.
Was that before or after the instructor taught about signs?
Re: "I Carry A Badge" Leather Concealed Weapon Permit Holder
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:44 pm
by The Annoyed Man
This thread is still going?
