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Jasonw560 wrote:I may send Zaffirini a fruit basket. Just a thank you for opening the door.

Be thankful for incompetence when it lies on the shoulders of your enemy.

Chas.

I'm not going to lie ladies and gentlemen - I have not been able to follow the issue like I would have liked to due to life happening, but I have email and faxed congress reps left and right and am happy that I may have been heard. Can one of you all please explain how Zaff's bill opened the door for Wentworth? I don't fully understand what her bill was all about.

I appreciate the upcoming replies...

Texas Size 11 wrote:I'm not going to lie ladies and gentlemen - I have not been able to follow the issue like I would have liked to due to life happening, but I have email and faxed congress reps left and right and am happy that I may have been heard. Can one of you all please explain how Zaff's bill opened the door for Wentworth? I don't fully understand what her bill was all about.

I appreciate the upcoming replies...

Without Zaffs bill already adopted, Wentworth's bill would have failed.
If she hadn't brought it up, we'd still be stalled.
We wanted her bill to be adopted, so Wentworth could get his adopted
After Wentworths was adopted, it's on there.

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Wentworth said afterward he is more hopeful today than he was a couple of hours ago. "When I submitted my amendment, I told them to hold it and submit it only after Senator Zaffirini's amendment was adopted," he said. "The fact is that without that, it would not have [passed]."

Without Zaffrini opening the door, we couldn't have walked through it. We'd still be stalled.

Texas Size 11 wrote:Can one of you all please explain how Zaff's bill opened the door for Wentworth? I don't fully understand what her bill was all about.

The way I understand it: because it was previously established that SB354 was germane to SB 5, Zaffirini's bill that she killed, once she added SB 5 as an amendment to SB 1581 AND it was determined that SB 5 was germane to SB 1581, by extension SB 354 became germane to SB 1581 where it would not have been before.

In other words, if she hadn't attached her bill SB 5 as amendment 4 to SB 1581, amendment 5 wouldn't have been able to be attached to SB 1581.


Oh, and WHOOP!

aggiedev wrote:

Texas Size 11 wrote:Can one of you all please explain how Zaff's bill opened the door for Wentworth? I don't fully understand what her bill was all about.

The way I understand it: because it was previously established that SB354 was germane to SB 5, Zaffirini's bill that she killed, once she added SB 5 as an amendment to SB 1581 AND it was determined that SB 5 was germane to SB 1581, by extension SB 354 became germane to SB 1581 where it would not have been before.

In other words, if she hadn't attached her bill SB 5 as amendment 4 to SB 1581, amendment 5 wouldn't have been able to be attached to SB 1581.


Oh, and WHOOP!

Yeah pretty much what I understand too


Also so that the glue stays stuck which is holding 354 onto here.... see NEW CALL TO ACTION: Campus Carry
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This is great news
I read another article that said it was attached to Ogdens bill but it didn't specify the bill number. Thanks for the info now I am follow it. Any idea when they will vote on the bill on the Senate floor?

Monker10 wrote:This is great news
I read another article that said it was attached to Ogdens bill but it didn't specify the bill number. Thanks for the info now I am follow it. Any idea when they will vote on the bill on the Senate floor?

It passed the Senate today. Campus carry is a done deal in the Senate, but we need the House to pass it as well.

Yeah, Senate is all finished ... now to the House... then to Rick Perry
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Jasonw560 wrote: BTW, Johhny Woodhead is despondent in his tweeting.

I noticed

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:I may send Zaffirini a fruit basket. Just a thank you for opening the door.

Be thankful for incompetence when it lies on the shoulders of your enemy.

Chas.

I like that.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Jasonw560 wrote:I may send Zaffirini a fruit basket. Just a thank you for opening the door.

Be thankful for incompetence when it lies on the shoulders of your enemy.

Chas.

Charles, do we still have a cliffhanger in the House or is it going to make it?

Would be funny if they ran it over and were able to hear it tonight lol
I know they can't but ... would be funny
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House is on 2817 now ... discussing poll watchers

Great news to hear on the tarmac in LA!!! (Is that irony, or what?)

Uh, what is "engrossment" (seriously)?

This is truly great to hear.

I don't like the political process - underhanded deals - sneaking this amendment in here and another one there - blocking bills in committee because you know they would pass on the floor - etc and so on.

But to think that campus carry might have a chance to pass WITHOUT the private exemption?!?!?!? As an employee of private institution, I wanted campus carry to pass but had no real hope that it could actually impact me. It is truly unbelievable.

I understand why SB5 as an amendment paved the way for SB354 as an amendment. But can someone explain to me why the private opt out had to be struck? I like it ... but I don't understand it.

OldSchool wrote:Great news to hear on the tarmac in LA!!! (Is that irony, or what?)

Uh, what is "engrossment" (seriously)?

In Texas a bill has to pass out of committee(s), then be heard on second reading in the full chamber, engrossed, then heard on third reading and then passed. In general, most bills are debated and amended before they are engrossed.