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Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:45 am
by SkinnyB78
Jumping Frog wrote:I am on the ABO plan.

"Anyone But Obama".

I'll support a green Martian if I thought it could beat Obama.
:lol::

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:29 pm
by tbrown
Keith B wrote:A vote for a third party IS a vote for Obama if it causes you NOT to vote for the Republican candidate. This is how Clinton won in 1992 due to a large number of voters jumping to vote for Perot who would have otherwise voted for Bush. Perot won approximately 19% of the popular vote, which caused some of the states to end up giving the electoral votes to Clinton instead of Bush. Clinton ended up with 43% of the popular vote vs. Bush 37%. Had even a small portion of those that voted for Perot voted for Bush he would have won a second term.
I was a kid 20 years ago so all I remember about that President Bush is the "no new taxes" debacle and his AWB which is still in effect. Maybe he lost the election because he didn't earn a second term.

I say a vote for a RINO is a vote for Obama if it causes you not to vote for a conservative candidate. :patriot:

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:48 pm
by The Mad Moderate
tbrown wrote:
Keith B wrote:A vote for a third party IS a vote for Obama if it causes you NOT to vote for the Republican candidate. This is how Clinton won in 1992 due to a large number of voters jumping to vote for Perot who would have otherwise voted for Bush. Perot won approximately 19% of the popular vote, which caused some of the states to end up giving the electoral votes to Clinton instead of Bush. Clinton ended up with 43% of the popular vote vs. Bush 37%. Had even a small portion of those that voted for Perot voted for Bush he would have won a second term.
I was a kid 20 years ago so all I remember about that President Bush is the "no new taxes" debacle and his AWB which is still in effect. Maybe he lost the election because he didn't earn a second term.

I say a vote for a RINO is a vote for Obama if it causes you not to vote for a conservative candidate. :patriot:
What AWB is still in effect?

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:58 pm
by tbrown
loadedliberal wrote:What AWB is still in effect?
The 1989 ban by the Bush (41) administration.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:09 pm
by The Mad Moderate
tbrown wrote:
loadedliberal wrote:What AWB is still in effect?
The 1989 ban by the Bush (41) administration.
I had not heard about that. Maybe Perry could get rid of that and a lot of other useless gun control laws. I would like to see everything from the 1946 ban on overturned and only keep background checks.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:49 am
by Skiprr
tbrown wrote:
loadedliberal wrote:What AWB is still in effect?
The 1989 import restrictions by the Bush (41) administration.
Fixed it for ya.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:34 pm
by texanron
LINK
Ron Paul just doesn't get it.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:10 pm
by RoyGBiv
texanron wrote:LINK
Ron Paul just doesn't get it.
If there was an award for being honest and consistent, RP would certainly be in the running.
These comments, IMO, completely sunk what little chance he has of getting nominated.
I know many believe he's running mainly to pad his war chest anyways.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:41 pm
by Dave2
RoyGBiv wrote:
texanron wrote:LINK
Ron Paul just doesn't get it.
If there was an award for being honest and consistent, RP would certainly be in the running.
These comments, IMO, completely sunk what little chance he has of getting nominated.
I know many believe he's running mainly to pad his war chest anyways.
War chest for what? I thought he was retiring from congress after this term anyway.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:15 am
by ArmyStrong1969
I don't vote or participate in the statist system because 1. I am opposed to governing by violent coersion and 2. Those in my minority group of Americans are barred from being elected to ANY office in this country. No its not the homosexual minority group. They are a smaller but much more accepted minority.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:45 am
by The Mad Moderate
ArmyStrong1969 wrote:I don't vote or participate in the statist system because 1. I am opposed to governing by violent coersion and 2. Those in my minority group of Americans are barred from being elected to ANY office in this country. No its not the homosexual minority group. They are a smaller but much more accepted minority.
Care to explain?

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:31 am
by RoyGBiv
Dave2 wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:
texanron wrote:LINK
Ron Paul just doesn't get it.
If there was an award for being honest and consistent, RP would certainly be in the running.
These comments, IMO, completely sunk what little chance he has of getting nominated.
I know many believe he's running mainly to pad his war chest anyways.
War chest for what? I thought he was retiring from congress after this term anyway.
He's not running for Congress in 2012 to focus on the Pers race.
Nothing said about that being permanent.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:48 pm
by ArmyStrong1969
The Mad Moderate wrote:
ArmyStrong1969 wrote:I don't vote or participate in the statist system because 1. I am opposed to governing by violent coersion and 2. Those in my minority group of Americans are barred from being elected to ANY office in this country. No its not the homosexual minority group. They are a smaller but much more accepted minority.
Care to explain?
I am in the 20% of Americans that see no evidence for any gods. I am an atheist. We are the largest and most hated minority group in America. A child raping Muslim Jihadist would get elected in this country before an atheist.

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:05 pm
by Dave2
ArmyStrong1969 wrote:I am in the 20% of Americans that see no evidence for any gods. I am an atheist. We are the largest and most hated minority group in America. A child raping Muslim Jihadist would get elected in this country before an atheist.
According to my own studies, 100%* of Christian Americans are both willing to elect an Atheist and would rather elect an Atheist than a child raping Muslim Jihadist.

*sample size of 2

(Oh, and since your post count suggests you're new here... Welcome to the board!)

Re: Ron Paul vs Rick Perry

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:18 pm
by tacticool
Drama Queen much?

I couldn't tell you the religion of most local politicians. Other than the ones who make an issue of it themselves.