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Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:19 am
by speedsix
...there will probably always be those who are ignorant because they're too lazy to read and learn the laws that they're supposed to enforce...but their numbers are probably lower in Texas than any other state...the majority of our LEOs are pro-CHL and more likely to "err" in our favor...those that are like the chief wgoforth mentioned may find themselves being re-trained before their next job application, after having been fired by a city manager who has to write a check with several zeroes in it...
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:59 am
by 03Lightningrocks
speedsix wrote:...there will probably always be those who are ignorant because they're too lazy to read and learn the laws that they're supposed to enforce...but their numbers are probably lower in Texas than any other state...the majority of our LEOs are pro-CHL and more likely to "err" in our favor...those that are like the chief wgoforth mentioned may find themselves being re-trained before their next job application, after having been fired by a city manager who has to write a check with several zeroes in it...
I have to agree with you. I have trouble believing that the comments made in that 5 year old article are still the beliefs of the ones making them. For instance the officer that made the crack about allowing a drug dealer to walk if he has a hand gun under the seat. It is not a defense to prosecution if committing a felony while carrying under the MPA. Am I not correct on this? So the drug dealer that officer referred too, would be double charged and receive mandatory prison minimum for having a gun while committing a felony. Correct or not???
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:22 am
by sjfcontrol
MVP = Most Valuable Player
MPA = Motorist Protection Act

Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:40 am
by 03Lightningrocks
sjfcontrol wrote:MVP = Most Valuable Player
MPA = Motorist Protection Act

Thank You... LOL...

Fixed it!
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:19 pm
by wgoforth
speedsix wrote:...there will probably always be those who are ignorant because they're too lazy to read and learn the laws that they're supposed to enforce...but their numbers are probably lower in Texas than any other state...the majority of our LEOs are pro-CHL and more likely to "err" in our favor...those that are like the chief wgoforth mentioned may find themselves being re-trained before their next job application, after having been fired by a city manager who has to write a check with several zeroes in it...
Speed...he wascalled on the carpet about it that night at the council meeting... he said he knew about MPA but he didn't want to encourage people to carry....
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:29 pm
by speedsix
...so he's not ignorant...just an evil tyrant...
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:41 pm
by Liberty
wgoforth wrote:speedsix wrote:...there will probably always be those who are ignorant because they're too lazy to read and learn the laws that they're supposed to enforce...but their numbers are probably lower in Texas than any other state...the majority of our LEOs are pro-CHL and more likely to "err" in our favor...those that are like the chief wgoforth mentioned may find themselves being re-trained before their next job application, after having been fired by a city manager who has to write a check with several zeroes in it...
Speed...he wascalled on the carpet about it that night at the council meeting... he said he knew about MPA but he didn't want to encourage people to carry....
Despicable that a Chief LEO would outride lie and intentionally give out false information to forward his political agenda.
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:47 pm
by Ameer
Liberty wrote:Despicable that a Chief LEO would outride lie and intentionally give out false information to forward his political agenda.
He's following the example of the United State's Chief LEO.

Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:44 pm
by JeepGuy79
When you get it back go trade it for another of the same make if you like it. Or buy a new slide and barrel for it and sell yours. Then they can cram that ballistics report...
Man that is crazy they can keep it like that. They cannot impound your car without reason, how can they keep any of your property? Especially a gun the state says you are responsible enough to carry?
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:51 pm
by texas-sig
Don't know how PD works but SO can clear a weapon for hits that same day. All i can say is keep harassing them for it. With all the stolen weapons out on the streets it could take them a few days but not weeks or months. Also we do have Fort Bliss here and that means more weapons brought from elsewhere, and unfortunately some of these soldiers are involved with cartels and gangs now.
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:31 pm
by Lambda Force
If they don't return it within 48 hours I would post on every local message board I could find with the officer's name, the name of the supervisor, and department. I would post that Officer X took my personal property when I was involved in a motor vehicle accident and taken to the hospital and he refused to return it after I got out of the hospital and asked for it back. I would say I spoke to his supervisor, by name, and he did nothing to get my property returned. I would not say it's a gun because that's irrlevant.
I would post the story on the websites of local TV stations, newspapers, et cetera. 48 hours is plenty for anything legitimate they need to do. After that it's morally theft and they deserve to get called out in every local forum so the public knows about his morals.
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:42 pm
by speedsix
...public exposure like you suggest and civil action is what it will take to make them stop...that kind of officer won't "see the light" until it costs him something...
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:35 pm
by tbrown
Cockroaches don't like the light.
Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:41 pm
by JeepGuy79
File a writ of habeas corpus on behalf of your gun

Re: Surrendered weapon after Motor Vehicle Accident
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:59 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
It seems like it is a real tough getting a weapon back after they have taken it away from you. All the expense falls on the person who had the weapon taken and sometimes that expense is more than the value of the gun! It isn't right at all! It is also why I don't carry my "BBQ guns" as a concealed weapon choice. I would cry like a baby if the police took my kimber away.