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philip964 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:55 am

The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:46 am

philip964 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:03 am

wheelgun1958 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:49 pm It wasn't a missile, it was a fuel tank explosion.

Exactly old wiring running through a fuel tank.

And we know this how? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but given the situation at the time, that would be a heck of a coincidence.

Sorry, I shouldn’t make light of the tragic shoot down of TWA flight 800 by terrorists in 1996, just months before a Presidential election.

It is clear that the Iranians mistakenly shot down this airliner, it was not a fuel tank explosion. Flight 800 was also not a fuel tank explosion.

This stuff bothers me. Flight 800, Epstein's murder. The lies around the Viet Nam war.
Can we trust a liar? If a government lies and rules us, Are we the servants of our government or does the government serve us?

The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:46 am

philip964 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:03 am

wheelgun1958 wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:49 pm It wasn't a missile, it was a fuel tank explosion.

Exactly old wiring running through a fuel tank.

And we know this how? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but given the situation at the time, that would be a heck of a coincidence.

I would take that as sarcasm or tongue in cheek. That plane was only 3 years old. Engines go out, or fly apart leading to damage that might bring a plane down but it is a rarity. Planes don't explode in the air unless hit with a missile or a bomb detonation on board.

Liberty wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:56 am
This stuff bothers me. Flight 800, Epstein's murder. The lies around the Viet Nam war.
Can we trust a liar? If a government lies and rules us, Are we the servants of our government or does the government serve us?

We are becoming servants of the government. The people in government are more interested in power and money than doing the right thing for the country. The Congress is a millionaire's club and once you are in the club, staying in is the most important thing. Why else would anyone object to Trump killing this thug in Iraq? The whole world knows Iran pays terrorist to do its dirty work. Trump does something about it and he's the bad guy? Only because he disrupts those who want to stay in power.

I was in Iraq in 2003-2004 as a contractor. I know people who were blew up and one that is still missing to this day that was a result of the insurgency that started in late 2003 early 2004. We knew back then it was Iran providing funding and support for the IED's. Our government's solution, put more armor on the vehicles. I was surprised to read the other day that al-Sadr is still alive. He killed many of our soldiers and more than a few contractors and the Bush administration did nothing about him. Obama did nothing about him. Now he's become so entrenched in the Iraqi government, it would really hit the fan if a missile went in his keister but I'm sure many soldiers would twist a lid to his demise.

https://news.yahoo.com/doug-collins-dem ... 20864.html

Republican spreads lies that the Democrats morn the dead terrorist.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10711754/ ... shot-down/

Iran begins careful forensic investigation of crash site with bulldozers.

Besides Rand Paul, were there any elected officials who objected to Obama killing an American citizen on foreign soil with a drone?

philip964 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:24 am https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10711754/ ... shot-down/

Iran begins careful forensic investigation of crash site with bulldozers.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/politics ... index.html

Tried to kill another Iranian General in Yemen the same night.

Iran just admitted they shot the plane down by mistake.

RicoTX wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:17 pm Iran just admitted they shot the plane down by mistake.

https://www.wate.com/news/national-worl ... -jetliner/

RicoTX wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:17 pm Iran just admitted they shot the plane down by mistake.

There maybe hope for a them afterall.

philip964 wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:16 pm https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/politics ... index.html

Tried to kill another Iranian General in Yemen the same night.

Says CNN with no named sources, which means credibility rating: 0.00

https://news.yahoo.com/words-general-ir ... 41333.html

Iran has an aerospace commander. He takes full responsibility.

https://news.yahoo.com/iran-doubling-do ... 08009.html

But the Iran that we know and love, still has stories up about it being a Trump psychological warfare plan.

This has got to hurt them psychologically as they use the mistaken shooting down of their passenger airliner by the US Navy as one of the reasons to hate us so much. Their hatred of the US goes back to 1953 (President Eisenhower) when the CIA and MI6 helped remove their elected leader who nationalized BP's oil wells in Iran. We then put the former Shah in his place.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 80116.html

UK ambassador arrested at a Tehran protest. I assume over the downing of an Ukrainian airliner in Tehran.

Democrats don’t care about these people murdered in Iran before Christmas.

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-p ... xsZWQnLiJd

https://www.westernjournal.com/iranian- ... A8dkH7wro4

Protestors chanting regime is the enemy not US. Wont walk on American flag painted on the street.