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UpTheIrons wrote:

Middle Age Russ wrote:...I was hoping Jake would be called out and sent packing.

If Sara Ahrens is to be believed, Jake set himself up for automatic advancement by stating early on to the Blue Team that he would go to elimination, win it, and come back and throw every succeeding challenge if he were ever voted to the elimination round.

I heard that, too. Personally, if I was there, my reaction would be to vote for him to go to elimination ever chance I had until he was gone.

The whole voting-off concept is why I can never enjoy most reality shows. Even when they make one about something that is by nature competitive, such as marksmanship. they still "need" to add the drama of personal conflict. I would much rather see the challenges done in such a way that individual performance results in objectively-identified bottom two members. How many times have we seen people vote for the guys who volunteer to go to the elimination instead of voting for the guy they believe should be eliminated?

If Sara Ahrens is to be believed, Jake set himself up for automatic advancement by stating early on to the Blue Team that he would go to elimination, win it, and come back and throw every succeeding challenge if he were ever voted to the elimination round.

If true, this means that Jake is a despicable schemer on top of being overbearing and grating. Too bad his teammates don't treat bullies the way they ought to be treated. I doubt that he is strong enough on his own to beat more than one or two of his teammates at most in elimination challenges.

Would like to have seen Jake go too. He's a cancer to his team.

I think I might be done with this show. How they have managed to make a show about people shooting cool guns for money so god awful boring and lame, I will never understand.

The only thing I could think when they brought out the previous winners to help them with strategy was that those guys won because their strategy was to be bland and blend into the background until the last couple of challenges. That kind of drove home how pointless it all is.

I can't agree with you Koolaid but I will say the team challenge showed a bunch of terrible AR shooting, except from the "revolver guy" Cliff. What kind of "amazing marksmen" take 6-9 shots with a good AR to hit 8" plates at 75 and 100 yards.
The "corner shot" was cool to see but the "challenge" of it was simply in taking a broad/sweeping view to acquire your target quickly. I hate that Jake won it but he certainly used the better method for quickly finding and engaging the targets.

MasterOfNone wrote:The whole voting-off concept is why I can never enjoy most reality shows. Even when they make one about something that is by nature competitive, such as marksmanship. they still "need" to add the drama of personal conflict. I would much rather see the challenges done in such a way that individual performance results in objectively-identified bottom two members. How many times have we seen people vote for the guys who volunteer to go to the elimination instead of voting for the guy they believe should be eliminated?

I can't disagree with you, but I think the drama keeps viewers coming back who may not be soley shooting focused. I think Mike the redhead would be long gone based on performance. He couldn't even perform with the shotgun which is his expertise.

puma guy wrote:I think Mike the redhead would be long gone based on performance. He couldn't even perform with the shotgun which is his expertise.

To be fair, his stated specialty is SHOTgun, not giant-bore-rifle-gun. Slugs and shot are two completely different animals. As are skeet and stationary targets.

I contend that Mike will be on the show for quite a long time because of his "color commentary." To wit: George Reinas (sp?) of season 2. Everyone wanted him gone, but he was there to the end, offering his "unique" take on everything Top Shot.

Since they edit the show after it is done filming, I don't think they'd give that much air time to the guy who's leaving early on. (Maybe I'm wrong and he'll go home next week!)

As to the lackluster AR performance, Paul (eliminated this week) said that, just as a gun works best for you when it is sighted in by you, a gun sighted in by someone else may well shoot differently for you. Not to excuse their shooting, because Red Team semed to do quite a bit better, but he probably has a point.

I had the opportunity last week to talk to Dustin Ellermann, one of the remaining competitors from Top Shot season 3.

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UpTheIrons wrote:

puma guy wrote:I think Mike the redhead would be long gone based on performance. He couldn't even perform with the shotgun which is his expertise.

To be fair, his stated specialty is SHOTgun, not giant-bore-rifle-gun. Slugs and shot are two completely different animals. As are skeet and stationary targets.

I contend that Mike will be on the show for quite a long time because of his "color commentary." To wit: George Reinas (sp?) of season 2. Everyone wanted him gone, but he was there to the end, offering his "unique" take on everything Top Shot.

Since they edit the show after it is done filming, I don't think they'd give that much air time to the guy who's leaving early on. (Maybe I'm wrong and he'll go home next week!)

As to the lackluster AR performance, Paul (eliminated this week) said that, just as a gun works best for you when it is sighted in by you, a gun sighted in by someone else may well shoot differently for you. Not to excuse their shooting, because Red Team semed to do quite a bit better, but he probably has a point.

I had a passing thought after the last episode that it would be ironic if Mike ended up winning. Trap&Skeet are as you say not the same as stationary target shooting so maybe having to line up sights throws him off and I've noticed Mike makes hurried shots during the competitions. All of his shot count hits/misses are poor. Since he seems to get a lot of air time they maybe setting it up. Personally I'm pulling for Dustin.

UpTheIrons wrote:[To be fair, his stated specialty is SHOTgun, not giant-bore-rifle-gun. Slugs and shot are two completely different animals.

From a load with a kick, to a firebreathing load intent on mayhem.

7075-T7 wrote:

UpTheIrons wrote:[To be fair, his stated specialty is SHOTgun, not giant-bore-rifle-gun. Slugs and shot are two completely different animals.

From a load with a kick, to a firebreathing load intent on mayhem.

Here's a target Mike could try, even with a "giant-bore-rifle-gun", which, to be fair had very big front and rear sights. That may be the problem.

45 mins till another chance for Red Mike to embarrass himself further and Jake to piss everyone off.

Domineaux wrote:45 mins till another chance for Red Mike to embarrass himself further and Jake to piss everyone off.

Well Jake behaved and we don't have Mike to kick around any more. Four votes tells the tale. I watched the first two seasons with no real favorite and no feelings one way or the other about the contestants or who wins, but this season I would really like to see Dustin continue to do well and finish Top Shot.

I really am confused that the show allowed Mike to shoot the way he did. That was way more chest level than hip level! Pretty dumb IMHO.

Jake is still a word I would rather not say on here- I think that when he acts nice to the team after his outbursts he is really just making good on his previous statements of "playing" the team. The guy is just plain unsporting and a pain in the butt.

To end on a positive note, glad to see Cliff still around. He's my first choice for the person I'd like to see win.