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Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:30 am
by Beiruty
The arrested guy should sue the city of SA to clean up its ordinance. NOW!
Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:17 pm
by Javier730
There are alot of bullies with badges here in San Antonio.
Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:27 pm
by cb1000rider
G.A. Heath wrote:I suspect that the prosecution of the OC advocate for charges under this ordinance did not happen because the prosecutor realized that the ordinance would be thrown out due to the state preemption law. I also suspect that there is now a memo from the prosecutor's office(s) (district/county/city) saying do not enforce the ordinance unless they are willing to accept the potential consequences. I also suspect that we will some some discussion, and perhaps the repeal of this ordinance, at future SA city council meetings.
We can't really guess what's going on behind the scenes, but it sure does sound like a scenario where the ordinance provides the PD cover to "solve the problem at hand" -IE take people to jail without having to worry too much about it being a false arrest. The problem at hand - a gun in public - is then solved. The offender got what he had coming to him for being an advocate - an arrest record, hours-days in jail, and the charges get dropped so the cycle can repeat itself.
Honestly, I think the first couple of officers did the right thing most likely per policy... If in doubt, call a supervisor. What happens after is all supervisor.
Use of the taser is what makes this a litigious event, IMHO.
Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:15 pm
by gigag04
Props to the tased guy - he sounded more like someone had him in a joint lock. I sounded like someone had set my thighs on fire.
Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:19 am
by rbwhatever1
When any form of Government creates ordinances or Laws infringing on a Constitutionally Protected Natural Right, it's the duty of ALL Citizens to disobey them entirely. LEO Citizens as well. Imagine that. An unconstitutional act ignored by ALL Citizens. I think that would send a clear message to the "would be ruler politicians" that our Liberties will not be messed with.
The taser thug needs to be removed from the ranks. He's unfit to be a Leader of American Citizen LEO's.
Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:33 am
by JP171
gigag04 wrote:Props to the tased guy - he sounded more like someone had him in a joint lock. I sounded like someone had set my thighs on fire.
LOL when I went through that portion of my training, the 2 SGT's that were holding me ran as soon as they could saying SGT P is gonna kill somebody. the young man gets props for not being like me, he was bucking the system and no matter how wrong the system he maintained his calm. the supervisor needs his tail flat cut off and the city needs a monetary, statutorily poignant reminder that they are not god, junior or the spook but rather just the normal police dept. of any town Texas. SA has a long standing history kinda like Philadelphia PA of trying to set the standard and refusing to obey state law

Re: Man Tased for Rifle OC in San Antonio
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:34 pm
by bayouhazard
EEllis wrote:FML wrote:
In that case, if somebody works over Mcmanus with a cattle prod it's not a crime until a court says so.

Well yes since people are innocent until proven guilty, but assault is already a crime so I'm not really sure how ytour comment is supposed to apply here.
Would that be assault?
I'm 100% positive San Antonio is not the Texas Legislature. I'm not so sure mcmanus hasn't consented to being shocked based on his public statements about this.