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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:24 am
by locke_n_load
338winmag wrote:Email sent.

ETA: Maybe there is a certain number of complaints needed before the AG actually does something. Or, it's just a law that was passed just to make some people happy, and really isn't enforceable. Think about it, the government is going to fine the government.
State government taxing city/county governments. If the AG ever ruled on any of the complaints, the signs would come down.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:40 am
by Soccerdad1995
They need to make the fines payable directly to anyone who can show harm by being turned away.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:06 am
by Scott in Houston
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Pic of the 30.06 sign… people are in front of the 30.07.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:13 am
by Scott in Houston
This is the "wand" check that you must walk through. If it's crowded, you can slip right through without them even getting near you as they're overwhelmed.

I agree that it's not a good idea to try and get away with carrying even though it's legal to do so, but if someone elected to try, it would not be difficult.
The people in yellow are paid employees, not volunteers, who are using the wands.
This is the south entrance coming over 610 from the holy grounds of what was once Astroworld.

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Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:01 pm
by txyaloo
I just walked in. The magneto meters are beeping, but they're letting people walk on through without secondary checks. Pretty ridiculous security theater

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:21 pm
by Scott in Houston
txyaloo wrote:I just walked in. The magneto meters are beeping, but they're letting people walk on through without secondary checks. Pretty ridiculous security theater
I'm here for second day. Lady stopped me with her wand and I just said, "No thanks. I'm good."

She looked a little surprised but didn't stop me as I kept walking. I'm wearing a sport coat, hat, and badges etc so that may have helped but still...

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:01 pm
by casp625
Russell wrote:Please add any good pictures to the entry here so that we can document them: https://www.texas3006.com/view.php?id=1631
Why is the entry still listed as valid?

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:04 pm
by RossA
There is no question that the whole place is owned by the county, just like the Astrodome always has been.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:51 pm
by txyaloo
Russell wrote:
casp625 wrote:
Russell wrote:Please add any good pictures to the entry here so that we can document them: https://www.texas3006.com/view.php?id=1631
Why is the entry still listed as valid?
I have not received any reports that the land or buildings are government owned. Are they, and has it been proven that they are?
The formation docs for the Harris County Houston Sports Authority and the lease with the rodeo is here:

http://www.houstonsports.org/legal-documents/

They facilities are definitely owned by a governmental entity.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:52 am
by Iunnrais
I'm not sure about a formal complaint but when I spoke with a committeeman Saturday, his opinion was that the rodeo could enforce whatever they wanted and if the state felt like fining the city $10k a day then it would be money well spent. This was based on the fact that alcohol was being served on-site and they had no intention of allowing guns and alcohol to mix.

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:02 pm
by nimravus01
Iunnrais wrote:...if the state felt like fining the city $10k a day then it would be money well spent.
It's so easy to spend someone else's money. I wonder how his constituents feel about that?

Re: Houston Livestock Show/Rodeo to Prohibit OC

Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:52 pm
by RossA
Making a complaint to the Rodeo won't do any good. They are not the owners of the property, and they won't be the ones who should be fined.