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What troops really think of the Army’s new XM7 rifle

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:12 am
by Paladin
This is certainly gun related. It relates to the politics sabotaging our national defense:

What troops really think of the Army’s new XM7 rifle
The weapons were issued to infantry units including the 101st Airborne Division and received resounding praise. Or did they? On the surface, military public affairs releases and news outlets that cited them shared quotes from soldiers who were impressed with the weapon’s performance. However, these quotes may have been taken out of context.
“I was recently quoted in multiple publications saying nice things about the Sig XM7 / Vortex XM157, and unfortunately, the 10 minutes worth of critiques I had before saying one nice thing didn’t quite make the cut,”
I have never seen a weapon have so many malfunctions...You’re giving infantryman a suppressor that if you twist the suppressor at all after “locking” the ring, it flips the lugs/breaks?? We had two break in the classroom.”.... “two-piece casing blows apart occasionally, stuck casings are common in the XM250.”...“The Vortex XM157 is <edited>. I usually like vortex products, but this one is bad,”...“half of [the rails] came misaligned from Sig which is further indicative of bad QC.”
After SIG sold the military the self discharging 320 without conducting the required field testing now we get this mess... and coverup.

National Defense is taking a back seat to SIG's sales.

Per Wikipedia: "On 19 April 2022, the Army awarded a 10-year contract to SIG Sauer to produce the XM7 rifle {and XM250}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM7_rifle

But they were testing the rifle in 2023 & 2024: US Army testing next-gen Sig Sauer XM7 Rifle. Army Tests NGSW XM250, XM7 in Extreme Weather Conditions

So the Army awarded a 10 year contract without fully testing the XM7??? After doing this with the 320... and again with the XM250.

It seems very strange that the military would go with SIG for pistols, rifles, AND machineguns without first field testing.

Anybody want a banana? :anamatedbanana :anamatedbanana :anamatedbanana

Re: What troops really think of the Army’s new XM7 rifle

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I’m pretty sure that someone in Sig's C-Suite has pictures of a pentagon acquisition officer snorting blow off of a working girl's hind parts.

Re: What troops really think of the Army’s new XM7 rifle

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:50 am
by Grayling813
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 pm I’m pretty sure that someone in Sig's C-Suite has pictures of a pentagon acquisition officer snorting blow off of a working girl's hind parts.
"rlol" Hopefully "warfighter" Defense Sec Hegseth can clean up this mess. Unfortunately, the Pentagon and the warfare industrial complex is too powerful to instigate any real change. Will probably take the US military getting badly defeated on all fronts in order to bring about real change and accountability.

Re: What troops really think of the Army’s new XM7 rifle

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:47 am
by PriestTheRunner
Grayling813 wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:50 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 pm I’m pretty sure that someone in Sig's C-Suite has pictures of a pentagon acquisition officer snorting blow off of a working girl's hind parts.
"rlol" Hopefully "warfighter" Defense Sec Hegseth can clean up this mess. Unfortunately, the Pentagon and the warfare industrial complex is too powerful to instigate any real change. Will probably take the US military getting badly defeated on all fronts in order to bring about real change and accountability.
If history is any guide, bureaucratic bull will only get solved in a real war under great pressure- and at the expense of fighting men's lives. And even then only to such a point.

Just look at the M60 debacle or the functional lack of infantry-level MGs headed into WW1.

Re: What troops really think of the Army’s new XM7 rifle

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:43 pm
by Grayling813
PriestTheRunner wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2025 7:47 am If history is any guide, bureaucratic bull will only get solved in a real war under great pressure- and at the expense of fighting men's lives. And even then only to such a point.

Just look at the M60 debacle or the functional lack of infantry-level MGs headed into WW1.
Agreed. WW2 found the our military with a great number of flag officers incapable of waging war against the enemy and equipment that didn't work reliably (looking at you Mk14 torpedo).