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Don't forget...

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:42 pm
by KC5AV
to spring forward before you go to bed.

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:43 pm
by Texasdoc
thanks for the remender

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:46 pm
by Mike1951
Does anyone else notice erratic behaviour from their atomic clocks when the time changes?

They are all set for DST, but it sometimes takes days for them to settle on the correct time.

I've had them go forward and back several times before they get it right.

If it was just once, I wouldn't say anything, but it happens to some extent every time change.

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:48 pm
by Xander
Mike1951 wrote:Does anyone else notice erratic behaviour from their atomic clocks when the time changes?

They are all set for DST, but it sometimes takes days for them to settle on the correct time.

I've had them go forward and back several times before they get it right.

If it was just once, I wouldn't say anything, but it happens to some extent every time change.

I've never one of mine go back and forth (I have three) but I have had them take awhile to update. Setting them temporarily in a window so they can get a better signal helps.

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:52 pm
by DoubleJ
Mike1951 wrote:Does anyone else notice erratic behaviour from their atomic clocks when the time changes?

They are all set for DST, but it sometimes takes days for them to settle on the correct time.

I've had them go forward and back several times before they get it right.

If it was just once, I wouldn't say anything, but it happens to some extent every time change.
It's due to the way the longitudinal magnetization is disturbed in the hydrogen atoms of the clock.
the proton spins are rephased 180 degrees, causing the spin-lattice relaxation to dephase erratically!

okay, maybe not...

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:10 pm
by MrsFosforos
Mike1951 wrote:Does anyone else notice erratic behaviour from their atomic clocks when the time changes?

They are all set for DST, but it sometimes takes days for them to settle on the correct time.

I've had them go forward and back several times before they get it right.

If it was just once, I wouldn't say anything, but it happens to some extent every time change.

I have one that sets itself back every time I've tried to change it since Saturday night. I haven't taken the time to try to figure it out.

"It's astounding, time is fleeting, madness takes it's toll. But listen closely, not for very much longer - I've got to take control. I remember doing the time warp ..."

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:20 pm
by locknload
MrsFosforos wrote:
Mike1951 wrote:Does anyone else notice erratic behaviour from their atomic clocks when the time changes?

They are all set for DST, but it sometimes takes days for them to settle on the correct time.

I've had them go forward and back several times before they get it right.

If it was just once, I wouldn't say anything, but it happens to some extent every time change.

I have one that sets itself back every time I've tried to change it since Saturday night. I haven't taken the time to try to figure it out.

"It's astounding, time is fleeting, madness takes it's toll. But listen closely, not for very much longer - I've got to take control. I remember doing the time warp ..."
Doing the Time Warp? That was a song and dance from the 60's, wasn't it? :fire :anamatedbanana

My banana stopped dancing!! Must've finally got the sucker!! "rlol" :smilelol5: :rolll

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:22 pm
by LarryH
MrsFosforos wrote:I have one that sets itself back every time I've tried to change it since Saturday night. I haven't taken the time to try to figure it out.
If it's a couple of years old, or older, its programming may be set to the previous phase points for switching from standard to daylight and back again. My older laptop is like that.

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:33 pm
by Mike1951
I have one that has not changed at all. I can understand that, as it was explained in an answer I got from NIST last November. Older or cheaper devices can have the original DST settings and do not recognize the new dates.

We always broadcast UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) and then we broadcast
a bit in the code which says whether it is DST or not.

The clocks receive the time code, and then adjust for the time zone setting
the user has set, and then for DST.

So our broadcast is correct. However, the issue at hand is that several of
the clocks which receive it have the date rule hard-coded into them, not
our time code.

Here is come more information about DST:
http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/general/dst.htm

And about radio-controlled clocks:
http://tf.nist.gov/timefreq/stations/radioclocks.htm


My other clock finally changed about 7 am and jumped two hours so that it shows an hour fast now.

I had followed an earlier suggestion and placed both in a window to optimize signal reception.

Re: Don't forget...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:52 pm
by MrsFosforos
LarryH wrote:
MrsFosforos wrote:I have one that sets itself back every time I've tried to change it since Saturday night. I haven't taken the time to try to figure it out.
If it's a couple of years old, or older, its programming may be set to the previous phase points for switching from standard to daylight and back again. My older laptop is like that.
It's new, my sweet husband bought it for me for christmas. The problem with it was more simple than that! We finally LOOKED at the control panel. It had a switch for "DLS" that was turned 'off'... When I turned it "ON" -- magically the time updated to the correct hour.

I HATE it when machines are smarter than I am but it sure happens a lot more lately!