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Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:49 pm
by rm9792
Daughter went for checkup and was asked about guns in the house. Needless to say she wont be going back there anymore. Dr. Candace Siegal was her doctor.

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:04 pm
by rm9792
FollowUp:
Spoke with Pam at clinic and she claims it is for the schools educational programs and that the info goes nowhere but their charts. I know of no firearms education in schools in Houston other than duck and be a victim. Why dont I believe them? I am waiting from a call from the doctor who supposedly can explain further.

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:08 pm
by WarHawk-AVG

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:24 pm
by Abraham
I've had to unholster for an examination in two different doctors offices and both Doctors were completely unfazed.

(There was no 30.06 sign posted at the office entrance as my FORMER doctor's office was)

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:50 pm
by jbirds1210
That is disturbing news. I use that office and would definitely make a stink if put in that situation.

Jason

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:59 pm
by ELB
rm9792 wrote:FollowUp:
Spoke with Pam at clinic and she claims it is for the schools educational programs and that the info goes nowhere but their charts. I know of no firearms education in schools in Houston other than duck and be a victim. Why dont I believe them? I am waiting from a call from the doctor who supposedly can explain further.
Asking and babbling nonsense about gun "risks" is bad enough, but they're annotating your daughter's medical charts with her answers about guns in the house??

As you indicated, new doctor time. And let the clinic know why they lost your family.

elb

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:13 pm
by casingpoint
Perhaps the clinic is merely accumulating some data on who fares better, folks without guns around of folks with guns.

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:28 pm
by locknload
casingpoint wrote:Perhaps the clinic is merely accumulating some data on who fares better, folks without guns around of folks with guns.
Oh, yeh, sure....... and I'm from the government, and I only want to help ...... yeh, sure..... :smilelol5: "rlol" :rolll :thumbs2:

If that is what they wanted, don't you think the Dr. would have gotten permission from the parents to ask these kinds of invasive questions? There are regulations about not being able to do certain "experiments" on minors without parental permission. This Dr.'s tactics stink to high heaven!

I was on the Board of Directors for CPS for awhile. The mindset of some of these folks, the Dr.'s included, would shock you. From knowledge gained in that position, my guess would be that this Dr. thinks gun owners are abusive parents (red necks?), who needlessly put their children at risk of gun shot injuries, and she is looking for a way to take the children away from such neanderthals! She has an obligation to the State to report any suspected abuse of the child, and she may just be an anti-gun fanatic, and this is her way of getting revenge against gunnies.

I would remove my family from her care. Also, I would make loud and long protests to her Chief of Staff, because she invaded my and my family's privacy, and her questioning was possibly abusive to my child. Without a parent present, we don't know. I would also report her to the AMA and State Accreditation Board, with copies of my letters to the AG's Consumer Fraud Division. I would also threaten all of the above to sue her rear end off! She did, after all, take your money, while performing "services," which you did not authorize (interrogation of your child), which undermined your parental authority and may have traumatized your child by causing her to be frightened of your weapons. Authority figures must tread carefully with children, or the children can suffer unintended consequences, because they just do not see the world the way adults do.

Don't go away quietly from this one! CPS in this state has already gotten in waaay too much trouble for interfering in the parent/child relationship and were forced to back off. This needs to happen to this Dr., big time!!!

Of course, if she has a reasonable explanation, I would ask her why she thought it necessary to annotate it in my child's records and why she didn't discuss it with me first or ask my permission to interrogate my child about our home, first. What she has done is inexcusable!

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:42 pm
by asleepatthereel
Ive been using the same small town doctor in alvin for so long he is like a member of the family. I have insurance, but he isnt on the plan. I would rather pay the 40 bucks he charges for an office visit than to use the insurance doctors and have to go through that kind of bull. I think insurance should be set up like it used to be in that it would pay for catastophic health issues, IE: surgery, car accidents, cancer, etc.

One thing is for sure, Kelsey Seybold wont get my money. Im glad my kids are grown and I dont have to worry about that kind of treatment. If they asked those questions when I was a kid, Dad would have been raided by the BATF!

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:52 am
by bpet
I remember reading a similar post before and was not sure I believed that this could really be a problem.

I stand now with my head hanging low and can assure you that any doctor who has the gall to ask that kind of question will no longer have any influence on my or my family's health. They will also no longer receive any of my health care dollars. :mad5

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:10 pm
by sailor2000
rm9792 wrote:FollowUp:
Spoke with Pam at clinic and she claims it is for the schools educational programs and that the info goes nowhere but their charts. I know of no firearms education in schools in Houston other than duck and be a victim. Why dont I believe them? I am waiting from a call from the doctor who supposedly can explain further.
Any more word?

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:11 pm
by aggie70
We use Kelsey (north side) & no longer have kids at home. This issue was first raised, to my knowledge, several years ago when AMA (I think) formulated "guidelines" for enhanced child "protection." We briefed our then early-teen age child to not answer. We explained how the doctor may be well-meaning but is generally cluelless concerning what he thinks may be a "danger." The question was never raised.

OTOH, last visit to my cardiologist at Kelsey required me to unholster & secure it in the vehicle. No problem, except that I forgot to remove the strong-side OWB holster. No comments from the cardiologist OR the cut li'l thing that did the stress test. My cover vest was hanging on the back of the door the whole time. This did not even cross my mind until I returned to the car and was reholstering! OOooooops! :cryin

God bless Ya'll!
Aggie '70
:txflag:

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:27 pm
by silver x0ne
My wife and I recently had a baby and during the first real office visit the doctor questioned about guns in the household. There was a swift yes, and then the doctor asked why. Wow, like that is any of their business... even at that, being told why they still looked at me stupid. Needless to say, changed doctors. I also have those fun in-laws that say I don't need a gun in the house at all (mind you, leo?). People are seriously losing their minds.. Hopefully natural selection will take care of the issue =/

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:16 pm
by rm9792
sailor2000 wrote:
rm9792 wrote:FollowUp:
Spoke with Pam at clinic and she claims it is for the schools educational programs and that the info goes nowhere but their charts. I know of no firearms education in schools in Houston other than duck and be a victim. Why dont I believe them? I am waiting from a call from the doctor who supposedly can explain further.
Any more word?
Nope.

Re: Kelsey Seybold Clear Lake asking gun questions

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:28 pm
by locknload
Why don't we all call K/S and let them know why we will not be using their facility? Do you think getting so many complaints and possibly losing so much money might help? ;-) :confused5