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Does anyone know how many people they have working on applications? Another question would be, How many applications do they receive per day? Any ideas on the procedure they have set up for processing applications? Are there several people each processing only one part of the application and then they hand it off to a different person to process the next part or does one person take the application through the whole process, from start to finish? The answers to why it takes so long would be quickly found with this information.

A better question to ponder is what is the meaning of life?

As far as processing times, it seems to be the luck of the draw. I dont know that it is all DPS though. I have seen it said here that they have to wait for the FBI to do a background check and send it to them. With all the folks from Texas and all the other states that matter submitting background checks to the FBI, I can understand why it sometimes takes a while. What I dont understand is the big difference in times, such as when tow people take the class and mail in the packets and one of them gets plastic in 60 days, while it may take 100 days for the other, assuming their was no problems with the application. I think there are alot of us that wonder the same thing, but so far, noone seems to know for sure.

Its too bad the forum doesnt seem to have any members from DPS to represent the CHL division and answer some of these questions, but then again, it would probably slow down the process even more.

Why is the Sky Blue?

The blue color of the sky is due to Rayleigh scattering. As light moves through the atmosphere, most of the longer wavelengths pass straight through. Little of the red, orange and yellow light is affected by the air.

However, much of the shorter wavelength light is absorbed by the gas molecules. The absorbed blue light is then radiated in different directions. It gets scattered all around the sky. Whichever direction you look, some of this scattered blue light reaches you. Since you see the blue light from everywhere overhead, the sky looks blue.

As you look closer to the horizon, the sky appears much paler in color. To reach you, the scattered blue light must pass through more air. Some of it gets scattered away again in other directions. Less blue light reaches your eyes. The color of the sky near the horizon appears paler or white.

Why Does It Take So Long For DPS to Process the CHL?

I have no stinkin' idea?!

This is exactly why our Charles Cotton and Alice Tripp of the TSRA have been requesting specific details on licenses that have exceeded what is allowed to process. Rather than just telling DPS that there is a problem, they wanted to be able to look at specific cases to determine why they were not issued in a timely manner.

Since they gave April 14th as the deadline for gathering this information, it is quite possible that a meeting with DPS took place or will take place this week.

Ironically, it appeared that more complained about being asked for the info than the ones who provided it.

They outsource it to Pakistan and India! The employees at the call centers from the phone and internet companies work on the CHL applications during their breaks!

Hmmm....so none of you know. It really isn't a mystical/magical system. There is nothing about the procedure that would be top secret. Maybe it is a staffing problem(not enough people) or maybe it is just that the folks holding those jobs are only there due to an Uncle/aunt/brother/sexual favors...whatever. If the position of application processor is looked at as a "sweet heart" job, the folks doing it may very well be worthless as teets on a boar hog. Then again...maybe the folks doing it are the very definition of efficiency but have too many applications to process. This brings up another question. What security measures are taken to investigate the ones who are able to get access to our personal information. Heck, we are trusting them with all the info needed to wipe us out financially. On a few pieces of paper they have our social security numbers, DL numbers and even our Checking account numbers. I truly hope this info isn't just laying around on some dill weeds desk while they run off for another smoke break. The only reason I bring this up is that I am seeing all the signs of a completely flawed system in the department handling these applications. They don't mind lying to us about the stage of our processing...this means they may not be honorable folks. I am a bit concerned with the info I entrusted them with.

What ever is causing it...anyone can see that there is something truly screwed up in that department. Somebody somewhere in that department is not doing their job. Good luck getting the state to own up to it. Fortunately, I am not in a big hurry to get my carry permit. It's just that I am a bit surprised by the complete incompetency of an agency entrusted to handle something as important as licensing people to carry hand guns.

Rant Off...

03Lightningrocks wrote: . . . What ever is causing it...anyone can see that there is something truly screwed up in that department. Somebody somewhere in that department is not doing their job. Good luck getting the state to own up to it. . . .

Well, you just might be surprised. Have a look at my report on the DPS meeting.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Well, you just might be surprised. Have a look at my report on the DPS meeting.

And where is that posted? Did I miss something?

Kalrog wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Well, you just might be surprised. Have a look at my report on the DPS meeting.

And where is that posted? Did I miss something?

No, I jumped the gun on my post. I was working on it when I heard from Alice. She's doing one, so I'll post it when I receive it. This saves me some work.

Chas.

The report is here:

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 84#p173484

Thanks Chas!

Interesting to say the least. Thank you for the work your putting into this. I appreciate it. I would love to have heard that the situation was going to improve, but didn't really expect that it would.

I wonder if the sudden influx of applications has to do with the fear of a new regime in the White House. I would be willing to bet on tougher gun control laws if the dems get power. Most people I talk to are concerned about this also. Assault weapons sales seem to be picking up also. We may all be thinking the same thing and trying to get in before the cut... .

03Lightningrocks wrote:I wonder if the sudden influx of applications has to do with the fear of a new regime in the White House.

A cluster of high-profile shootings ocurred in November and December 2007. I would bet that was a factor.

Members of this forum are acutely aware of the RKBA positions of candidates, but half the population is still not aware that there's a presidential election this year. (I'm not kidding. I've run into people like that.)

- Jim