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Does anybody know...

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:09 am
by hobbeeman
Up in the high plains, we often go out to the Canadian River bed to shoot. (We go upstream about 1-2 miles of the bridge and set up clay pigeons or other suitable targets) I have read that a new permit is now needed to drive off road in public lands.

Is this true?

If so, where do I get more information?

Where do I get a permit?

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:12 pm
by hobbeeman
Well, at this time 56 people have read this post, and no one has had any input. I guess maybe the answer to my orginal querie "does anybody know" is... NO :shock:

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:39 pm
by Crossfire
I think you are right. Nobody knows...

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:46 pm
by flintknapper
llwatson wrote:I think you are right. Nobody knows...

I'll be staying at a Holiday Inn Express pretty soon, maybe I'll post back with the answer after that. :grin:

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:47 pm
by racer32
You might call the local TPWD office. My experience shooting @ the river is 20 yrs old.

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:53 pm
by rodnocker1
I agree-call TPWD. I tried to look it up on their website and almost ended up in the corner, curled into a ball and sucking my thumb. Dazed and confused doesn't begin to describe it.

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:47 pm
by gigag04
rodnocker1 wrote:I agree-call TPWD. I tried to look it up on their website and almost ended up in the corner, curled into a ball and sucking my thumb. Dazed and confused doesn't begin to describe it.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publication ... formation/

Found by putting the following into google: "contact TPWD"

Hope it turns something up for ya.

-nick

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:18 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Hobbeeman:
I've been swamped all day and just got on the forum. I don't have a clue, but let me know if TPWD can't help and I'll try to make some calls.

Regards,
Chas.

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:46 pm
by KBCraig
gigag04 wrote:
rodnocker1 wrote:I agree-call TPWD. I tried to look it up on their website and almost ended up in the corner, curled into a ball and sucking my thumb. Dazed and confused doesn't begin to describe it.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publication ... formation/

Found by putting the following into google: "contact TPWD"

Hope it turns something up for ya.

-nick
I don't think rodnocker1 had trouble finding out how to contact TPWD -- I think he was suggesting contacting them because the answer they were looking for was hard to find on the site.

Aggies! :roll:

Kevin

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:38 pm
by yardsale
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by yardsale
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:41 pm
by yardsale
There are indeed new regulations for off road vehicles... Motorcycles and atv's anyway... I do not think that it applies to street legal vehicles. Furthermore, enforcement is selective, as long as you're not an ass about it, you will likely recieve a verbal warning, and information on how to go about obtaining a permit.

On another note, it is illegal to shoot at the river on the state side, according to potter county sherriff's office and illegal except for hunting on the national recreation area side according to the rangers. Also no hunting from the park service sign @ the beginning of the meadows to the back side of "Bultaco" hill.

The rangers tell me that if they catch someone, they confiscate the weapons, and there is a hefty fine.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:42 pm
by hobbeeman
Yardsale,
So you say that the Potter County Sherriff's department told you it is illegal to shoot out there?

I think that will be my first phone call. I guess my second will be to the park rangers.

I have found that, when dealing with the federal employees, they fear no accountability to the citizen. I had several questions about the other public Federal lands around Amarillo, and they treated me like I was trespassing on private property. Must we shooters and hunters get elected to an office before we are treated in a fair way? :evil:

Thanks guys for all the feedback.
David

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:34 pm
by gigag04
KBCraig wrote:
gigag04 wrote:
rodnocker1 wrote:I agree-call TPWD. I tried to look it up on their website and almost ended up in the corner, curled into a ball and sucking my thumb. Dazed and confused doesn't begin to describe it.
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publication ... formation/

Found by putting the following into google: "contact TPWD"

Hope it turns something up for ya.

-nick
I don't think rodnocker1 had trouble finding out how to contact TPWD -- I think he was suggesting contacting them because the answer they were looking for was hard to find on the site.

Aggies! :roll:

Kevin
Sorry...I was busy running my business and did not have time to fully read the post :lol: JK...its not that impressive of a business...but it something to do while I finish school.

-nick

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:26 pm
by yardsale
hobbeeman wrote:Yardsale,
So you say that the Potter County Sherriff's department told you it is illegal to shoot out there?
That is correct. However, I see people do it all of the time with no problems, you and I both know that the sherriffs hardly ever go out there, and I've NEVER seen one past the railroad trestle.
hobbeeman wrote:I think that will be my first phone call. I guess my second will be to the park rangers.

I have found that, when dealing with the federal employees, they fear no accountability to the citizen.
I have had nothing but positive experiences with the park rangers. Every year at the sand drags, we make it a point to have food and drinks available for all LEO's and fire fighters. It sets the stage for friendly encounters and cooperation for the coming year. next time you see a ranger out there, take the time to introduce yourself and chat... It will be well worth your time, and all of the rangers I've met are genuinely good guys.