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Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:17 pm
by Mr.Scott
I need a new job. I got let go a few weeks ago and am looking for another job. I do computer support. If you or your employer is looking for a desktop support guy I'd appreciate a heads up.

I would prefer a chl friendly employer. I got outed by a friend of a friend that saw my CHL when i whipped out my DL for ID when using my credit card. They went to HR, HR went to me with a box for my stuff.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:48 pm
by Keith B
Sorry to hear you have been let go. Will keep my ears open for something.

I assume you were carrying at the time and it was against company policy (in the handbook?)

Good luck!

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:56 pm
by Rokyudai
You lost your job for having a chl? Did I miss something?

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:02 pm
by maximus2161
Mr. Scott, your post read as if you were fired for just having a CHL. Is this correct? Were you carrying a handgun concealed at work or were you terminated for just being a CHL holder? I am not an attorney but I bet you have no issues getting one if you were fired for the latter.

I think we need some specifics on this. Sorry about your job.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:59 am
by crochetetc
Here is a place in Plano they are always accepting applications. I dont personally work there but have known a few people they did.

http://tinyurl.com/52ubc9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good Luck

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:21 pm
by TexasComputerDude
Yep just learned that in class.

NALBGABIBL (not a lawyer but have a B in Business Law)

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:23 pm
by CompVest
Yes, Texas is an employment-at-will state. However, you can't fire someone for being in a protected class, you can't fire them for refusing to do an illegal act, you can't fire them for making a worker's comp. claim and you can't fire them in violation of a contract of employment. Employment-at-will has limits and not firing someone for having a gun in the car is no more intrusive on one's personnel policies than the restrictions set out above. Employers can use a pretext and fire someone for having a gun, while claiming another motive. But those actions are not as easy to get away with as one might believe. (I've had clients learn that one the hard way.) Remember, contrary to popular belief and what lawyers learn in law school, you don't have to prove anything; all you have to do is make the jury believe it. (That's an over-simplification, but not by much.) Further, I personally favor a bill that would address this issue in a manner that keeps the existence of a firearm confidential, but that's just my opinion. (Charles Cotton)


I think if you were fired because you have a CHL as opposed to carying at work against stated work policy you should talk to a lawyer about it.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:37 pm
by dwhitley
Yes if that was the case.. I think he had it on him while at work. In Texas you can terminate anytime you want, but you still have legal obligations and can be served in a wrongful termination. I know as I have been in front of the TEC many times as a Director of HR.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:53 pm
by BigBlueDodge
This just doesn't sound right to me? An employer would not let their cherished and valued employees go so easily just because he/she has a CHL license. I mean this is absurd as HR firing you because they found out you were a Democrat or Republican. I would guess that there were other contributing factors.

And how did you know that someone spotted your CHL license? 99% of the Joe Q. Public don't even know what a CHL license looks like. If it was in your wallet, only a portion of it would have been displayed. Something is not adding up.

If I were you I'd hit up the job sites, Monster.com, CareerBuilder.com, Jobs.com, etc. You should be able to spot something pretty quick.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:10 pm
by Mr.Scott
BigBlueDodge wrote:This just doesn't sound right to me? An employer would not let their cherished and valued employees go so easily just because he/she has a CHL license. I mean this is absurd as HR firing you because they found out you were a Democrat or Republican. I would guess that there were other contributing factors.

And how did you know that someone spotted your CHL license? 99% of the Joe Q. Public don't even know what a CHL license looks like. If it was in your wallet, only a portion of it would have been displayed. Something is not adding up.

If I were you I'd hit up the job sites, Monster.com, CareerBuilder.com, Jobs.com, etc. You should be able to spot something pretty quick.
Well I'm not going to state the name of the employer because they as a whole are a good company, but they have a philosophy of "safety for women" and are a very liberal company.
I'm not hurting for money as it is and have enough to last me until January and allow me to live comfortably. (I've already bought 2 more guns and a nice sword. lol

I did carry at work which was against their policy, but ever since I learned that they employed 2nd Chance felons (75-100) temps that didn't have to go through any checks, I carried every day I was there.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:07 pm
by ejector
Let's all be thankful that last year the Texas Legislature removed public look-up on CHL status.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:36 pm
by LarryH
Mr.Scott wrote:Well I'm not going to state the name of the employer because they as a whole are a good company, but they have a philosophy of "safety for women" and are a very liberal company.

I did carry at work which was against their policy, but ever since I learned that they employed 2nd Chance felons (75-100) temps that didn't have to go through any checks, I carried every day I was there.
Does anybody else see a possible dichotomy between those two statements?

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:41 pm
by DoubleJ
or the fact of not allowing "even women" to carry, and then saying, "We care about women..."
whole thing stinks.
Mr Scott, I think you're better off.

Re: Can anyone help a fellow CHLer in DFW out?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:28 pm
by pwd
Check out:

http://www.deaver.ambitenergy.biz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It wouldn't be a traditional "job," but could grow into something much bigger. Let me know if you have any questions. Best wishes!

Weylan