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Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:45 am
by TacShot
Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL? You better believe it! See my post in 2009 Texas Legislative Session, "URGENT, a Bill on knives could protect your CHL!"

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:51 pm
by ProudNativeTexican
I picked up a new knife a few weeks ago cause I misplaced the one I have been carry. I got it from Acadmey and didn't notice that it was an illegal knife until I opened it cause it is Kershaw assited open.

But since I got lucky and found the mispalced knife this morning I will not be carrying the illegal knife an longer.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:22 pm
by Keith B
The post referenced is here http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 92&t=23504" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:33 pm
by wtchdr4011
I don't see what the big deal is about having a switchblade. My Emerson CQC7 opens just as fast with some practice.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:42 pm
by frazzled
Its illegal.

When originally outlawed it was viewed as an assassin's knife or a gangster's knife.

Different from your standard issue pocket knife? Not by much, agreed. Actually I'd prefer a pocket knife/SWA. Switchblades are generally flimsy pieces of garbage.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:58 pm
by wtchdr4011
frazzled wrote:Its illegal.

When originally outlawed it was viewed as an assassin's knife or a gangster's knife.

Different from your standard issue pocket knife? Not by much, agreed. Actually I'd prefer a pocket knife/SWA. Switchblades are generally flimsy pieces of garbage.
I agree with the flimsy piece of garbage bit. I find it funny though that I can carry a pistol just about anywhere, but a pocket knife is illegal. I guess it all goes back to gov't and the lack of common sense.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:19 pm
by frazzled
I can understand though. At the time it was a gang weapon.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:49 pm
by tarkus
frazzled wrote:I can understand though. At the time it was a gang weapon.
I think there's probably worse public opinion for switchblades (gangs) than open carry (cowboys) in Texas.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:10 pm
by AEA
How can stores and internet sell something that is illegal? :???:

Do the stores think it is not illegal? Why is LE not raiding stores that are selling "illegal" AA knives?

Do Legislatures not know what it really is (as opposed to a switchblade)?

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:20 pm
by Mike from Texas
ProudNativeTexican wrote:I picked up a new knife a few weeks ago cause I misplaced the one I have been carry. I got it from Acadmey and didn't notice that it was an illegal knife until I opened it cause it is Kershaw assited open.

But since I got lucky and found the mispalced knife this morning I will not be carrying the illegal knife an longer.
An assisted opening knife is not an illegal knife.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:16 pm
by Mike1951
Mike from Texas wrote:
ProudNativeTexican wrote:I picked up a new knife a few weeks ago cause I misplaced the one I have been carry. I got it from Acadmey and didn't notice that it was an illegal knife until I opened it cause it is Kershaw assited open.

But since I got lucky and found the mispalced knife this morning I will not be carrying the illegal knife an longer.
An assisted opening knife is not an illegal knife.
I agree! The current 'automatic' knives are the current equivalent of the switchblade and they are not normally sold to non-LE.

I have several of the Kershaw assisted opening knives. The smaller ones work ok, but my Boa opens like a slow motion video.

I do believe, though, that someone (Steve Rothstein???) did post a court case where a conviction resulted from an assisted opening knife.

I haven't seen the referenced bill, but would like to see knife carry clarified.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:53 pm
by Target1911
I would also like to see our current CHL change to a CWP....Concealed Weapon Permit. That would cover more than just a handgun.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:06 pm
by Captain Matt
They justify 46.02 and 46.03 by saying the Texas constitution allows the legislature to regulate bearing arms but how do they justify 46.05?

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:18 am
by fickman
I've talked to several LEO about this. . . they all agreed that spring-assisted knives are legal as long as you are applying pressure directly to the blade when you press the lever.

Re: Could your pocket knife cost you your CHL?

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:11 pm
by pfgrone
I purchased a Kershaw assisted opening knife over a year ago and was concerned enough about the switch blade question that I wrote Kershaw and asked them about the legality. Kershaw replied that it was legal in Texas and a court case had found in Kershaw's favor that assisted opening is not the same as switch blade.
PG