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Is reloading cheaper if you reload a lot? If so...

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:03 am
by propellerhead
The more you reload the cheaper it gets, right? So if you reload .45 ACPs and you are in Fort Worth or in DFW, would it be beneficial to both of us if you reload an extra 500 rounds a month and sell them to me? You'd lower your overall cost of ammo and I would get decent ammo for less than factory ammo. Yes? No?

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:39 am
by HighVelocity
I don't reload anymore but I'm thinking about starting up again. The thing about reloading and sharing is liability. If you buy reloads from someone and get a squib which causes you to blow up your gun or some other catastrophic failure directly atributed to the reloaded ammo, would you hold the reloader responsible? I would and you probably would too.

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:10 pm
by Crossfire
Reloaders cannot sell ammo without an FFL. You can make all you want for personal use, but you cannot sell it for a profit without the blessing of the ATF.

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:02 pm
by propellerhead
Excellent points. Thanks for the info. Now I understand why this isn't going on all the time.

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:30 pm
by ShootingStar
What about allowing someone to come to your house and use your equipment? They bring all their own supplies and you both split the money saved. I really doubt there are any laws against what is basically renting your equipment.

-SS

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:38 pm
by Jeremae
it is a pretty common practice for a long time reloader to allow someone new to use their equipment to "apprentice" for a time before they take the plunge and buy their own. I also know several sets of friends who shared the cost of 1 setup.

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:19 pm
by longtooth
Sharing his loading room is how a friend got me restarted.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:12 pm
by WNallG30
I've been thinking about reloading lately, but honestly, I don't even know where to start. I mean, there are so many different options. I would want to reload rifle and pistol rounds. Do I get a progressive machine, do I do this, do I do that.... I don't know anyone who's into reloading enough to really help me. I only have one shooting buddy who reloads, and he only reloads .40 and nothing else. What would be a good way to get started?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:21 pm
by longtooth
I started by watching a friend. He let me use his to start loading some of my own. Learn to load what every he loads since you a starting from scratch. The principles will be the same when you change calibers or go from pistol to rifle. I have a single stage RCBS & it is simple. I reload all everyone in the family can shoot. I DO NOT set in front of a TV. I do not have kids in summer sports. Really all i do is tend to business & shoot. Every one here will help you as much as they did me when I had problems. It is fun & less than a third the cost.

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:25 pm
by Amy
My local PD has asked me if I could sell them ammo for qualifying and practice. What's involved in getting the blessing of the BATF?

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:52 pm
by Crossfire
You have to get an FFL that allows you to manufacture ammo for sale.

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:35 pm
by Amy
llwatson wrote:You have to get an FFL that allows you to manufacture ammo for sale.
I had assumed that much, how does one go about that?

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:46 pm
by Crossfire
Amy -

Hubby and I are in the process of working through this right now, but I don't remember where we got the original application. Maybe we sent a request on the BATFE website?

At any rate, we do have a contact that has helped us with the process:

Lee Ann Delk, in the Fort Worth area office. There may be someone else in your area, but she can get you started. Her office number is 817-862-2860 and cell is 817-247-8280. Don't expect to reach her the first time you call. Leave a message. She WILL call you back.

We are currently in the background check part of the process. Hope this goes well for you. Maybe we can help each other out with this in the future, trading brass for lead!

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:36 pm
by KBCraig
Amy wrote:
llwatson wrote:You have to get an FFL that allows you to manufacture ammo for sale.
I had assumed that much, how does one go about that?
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nlc/ffl/ffl ... htm#type06

You need a Type 06 FFL (Manufacturer of Ammunition). It's $30 for three years. To get it, you fill out ATF Form 7. Call the National Licensing Center at (404) 417-2750 or 1-866-662-2750, and they'll send you a packet.

Kevin

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:31 pm
by KBCraig
Correction: instead of the NLC, contact the distribution center:

http://www.atf.gov/forms/5300instructions.htm#5310