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Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:02 pm
by bat0man007
when they say the case will likely be referred to the grand jury, does this mean the homeowner could be charged for shooting the teen?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/met ... 08245.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:09 pm
by boomerang
bat0man007 wrote:when they say the case will likely be referred to the grand jury, does this mean the homeowner could be charged for shooting the teen?
That's what the grand jury will decide. Whether it can go to trial.

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:11 pm
by WildBill
bat0man007 wrote:when they say the case will likely be referred to the grand jury, does this mean the homeowner could be charged for shooting the teen?
I think that in this type of case referrring to the grand jury is "routine." I don't think that you can infer anything from that statement - It means the homeowner could be charged, but it also means that he may not be charged.

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:23 pm
by seamusTX
All homicides are referred to a grand jury when the killer is identified. Even cops have to run that gantlet.
PC 9.02. JUSTIFICATION AS A DEFENSE. It is a defense to prosecution that the conduct in question is justified under this chapter.
- Jim

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:54 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
The homeowner appears justified in shooting the burglar
under the "retrieving stolen property" defense, but is there
a problem where he shot him at 630 AM, which may possibly
be light out enough to be considered "daytime"?

SIA

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:02 pm
by seamusTX
Sunrise is at 7:15 a.m. at this latitude, at this time.

Theft in the night time and recovering the fruits of robbery are separate issues, anyway.

- Jim

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:06 pm
by Oldgringo
In any event, young Mr. Simpson and his girlfriend have been shown the error of their ways. Mr. Simpson has even been rehabilitated.

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:48 pm
by baseballguy2001
Based on the story, (if those are all the facts) the homeowner should be OK. The TV is probably totaled. The getaway car driving girlfriend should probably get ten years.

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:58 pm
by seamusTX
baseballguy2001 wrote:The getaway car driving girlfriend should probably get ten years.
Probation, unless she gets the worst lawyer in the state.

"I dunno. He just called me and asked me to pick him up."

- Jim

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:27 pm
by snorri
Oldgringo wrote:Mr. Simpson has even been rehabilitated.
That's true. Maybe some of his coworkers will hear about the wages of sin and go forth and sin no more.

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:40 pm
by seamusTX
Dream on. ;-)

The morons just keep throwing themselves into the furnace.

The fact that is overlooked by criminals and spectators such as ourselves is that robbery does not pay well. A convenience store robbery may get $50. A bank robbery could get $1,000, but it's likely to explode and spray dye all over the robber. Also, the FBI gets interested in that kind of crime. Any robbery can get the robber perforated. A TV set? Beyond pathetic. Dr. Darwin took his due this time.

- Jim

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:31 am
by stash
seamusTX wrote:Dream on. ;-)

The morons just keep throwing themselves into the furnace.

The fact that is overlooked by criminals and spectators such as ourselves is that robbery does not pay well. A convenience store robbery may get $50. A bank robbery could get $1,000, but it's likely to explode and spray dye all over the robber. Also, the FBI gets interested in that kind of crime. Any robbery can get the robber perforated. A TV set? Beyond pathetic. Dr. Darwin took his due this time.

- Jim
I wonder, do any banks in Texas use dye packs? Before I moved from El Paso, not a one used them. I had heard it was a liability thing (did not want to burn the BG when the pack exploded).

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:34 am
by seamusTX
Here's one in Houston last year: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=6770518" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

- Jim

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:53 am
by stash
Good! Thanks Jim.

Re: Houston man kills teen burglary suspect

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:00 am
by seamusTX
You're welcome.

BTW, if you search the web for "exploding dye pack," you can see how many robbers stuff the loot down their pants and suffer injuries to their manhood. I don't seem them suing, either. Most states prohibit lawsuits for injuries suffered during the commission of a felony.

Sheesh. Bring a bag for the loot. :???:

- Jim