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A local pawn shop has a Win. Model 94 with the octagon barrel that looks to be an antique. I have not held it yet, just looked at it in the rack. They are asking $585 for it. I looked on gunbroker.com and gunsamerica.com and guns comparable to this one are going for ~$1000-2000. My question: Is there anywhere I can look to see what the actual value of this gun is and is it worth the money they are asking, or much more? I would think the pawn shop knows what it is worth, since that's their business. But sometimes these things slip through the cracks. So what about it... Have I found a great deal? Thanks in advance.

-Dustin

Gun Digest and Shooter's Bible are the standard price guides. The trouble is identifying exactly what the rifle is. There are good modern replicas out there.

Look at this page: http://www.doublegun.com/roth.htm.

The asking prices on GunsAmerica and GunBroker are the sellers' wildest dreams, most of the time. You would do better to look as closed auctions on AuctionArms.

- Jim

A couple of things to remember. Most pawn shops are not going to accidentaly under-price anything and just because it has an octagon barrel doesn't mean it's an antique.
Does the rifle have a cross bolt safety? That would rule out antique right there.

Thanks for the replies guys. I stopped back by at lunch and looked at the rifle. I also got the serial number and looked it up. It was made in 1967, so not quite an antique. lol. It was obviously used a lot because it looks much older than that. Oh well, I guess the price was right. Anyway, thanks for the replies and have a good weekend.

-Dustin

For that price you should consider picking it up since Winchester is no longer making the model 94.

Just remember: "antique" has a very specific definition when it comes to federal firearms laws.

The term "antique firearm" means --

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; and

(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica --
(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or
(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.


For most purposes, you can stick to the "Pre-'98" definition. There are a number of firearms from the cowboy period, plus a number of military arms, which were produced during the "trans-'98" period, which are identical in every way, but the older ones are antiques, not subject to any federal firearms laws, but ones manufactured on or after 1/1/1898 are treated just the same as brand new guns. Full 4473/NICS deal are required.

Kevin