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Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:57 pm
by cougartex
With a Crimson Trace Laser (LG-312), what is the maximum distance of the laser in the daylight?

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Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:11 pm
by couzin
I think it depends on background and/or target color - but in bright sunlight I cannot see it at all beyond 10 to 15 feet. If someone were that close, I wouldn't be thinking about that little dot anyways. CT is reportedly offering the green dot laser which I understand is more visible - but it eats batteries.

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:59 am
by drjoker
practice your point shooting skills and forget about toys and gadgets. don't depend on gadgety toys to save your life. depend on YOU.

I'm getting one, but I'm not going to count on it over developing my aiming skills.

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:14 am
by AEA
cougartex wrote:With a Crimson Trace Laser (LG-312), what is the maximum distance of the laser in the daylight?

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"Maximum Distance" is the same in daylight as it is in darkness.
Who knows what that is, but it can hit airplanes at 15-20 thousand feet up (so I have heard).

The problem is the daylight reduces your ability to see the beam at any great distance. If you are indoors it still works pretty well, but out on the street in a bright sunny day, for get it! You will be aiming at your hand to make sure it is still working! :smilelol5:

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:35 am
by GOP
I can't see it past 15 feet in daylight. Truthfully, I rarely ever look for the dot when shooting. Although it is sort of cool to see the laser at dusk with wisps of smoke and dust around.

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:01 pm
by TXAG_2010
AEA wrote:
cougartex wrote:With a Crimson Trace Laser (LG-312), what is the maximum distance of the laser in the daylight?

:txflag:
The problem is the daylight reduces your ability to see the beam at any great distance. If you are indoors it still works pretty well, but out on the street in a bright sunny day, for get it! You will be aiming at your hand to make sure it is still working! :smilelol5:
I agree here.

I have a CT laser on the pistol I use while hunting. Out there, the times I would need the pistol are all either in pitch black or twilight hours. When I was zeroing the laser during the day, I had to build a little "hut" to put the target in to see the laser.
For my carry pistols, I just use night sights.

But to answer your question, I wouldn't count on it working more than 15' during the day, but again, it all depends on the lighting and target.

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:46 pm
by cougartex
Thanks for the information. :txflag:

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:06 pm
by The Habernatho
GOP wrote:I can't see it past 15 feet in daylight. Truthfully, I rarely ever look for the dot when shooting. Although it is sort of cool to see the laser at dusk with wisps of smoke and dust around.
:iagree:

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:07 pm
by CaptWoodrow10
TXAG_2010 wrote:
AEA wrote:
cougartex wrote:With a Crimson Trace Laser (LG-312), what is the maximum distance of the laser in the daylight?

:txflag:
The problem is the daylight reduces your ability to see the beam at any great distance. If you are indoors it still works pretty well, but out on the street in a bright sunny day, for get it! You will be aiming at your hand to make sure it is still working! :smilelol5:
I agree here.

I have a CT laser on the pistol I use while hunting. Out there, the times I would need the pistol are all either in pitch black or twilight hours. When I was zeroing the laser during the day, I had to build a little "hut" to put the target in to see the laser.
For my carry pistols, I just use night sights.

But to answer your question, I wouldn't count on it working more than 15' during the day, but again, it all depends on the lighting and target.
I think I remember hearing that lasers on a hunting firearm is illegal. IIRC, you have to have some sort of letter stating that you are legaly blind and you have to be with a non-blind licensed hunter. Exact wording:
# Artificial light of any form that casts or reflects a beam of light onto or otherwise illuminates a game animal or bird may not be used as an aid to hunt, except battery-powered scoping devices that project a light or dot only inside the scope; pin sight lights on archery equipment; or laser sighting devices used by legally blind hunters, or hunters who have a documented permanent physical disability that prevents them from using traditional firearm sighting devices.
# Legal blindness is: no more than 20/200 of visual acuity in the better eye with correcting lenses or visual acuity greater than 20/200, but with a limitation in the field of vision such that the widest diameter of the visual field subtends an angle no greater than 20 degrees. Blind hunters must be assisted by a licensed hunter at least 13 years of age who is not legally blind. Blind hunters must possess a physician's signed statement attesting to legal blindness.
# A person who uses a laser sighting device because of a permanent physical disability that prevents them from using a traditional firearm sighting device must have in possession a signed statement from a physician or optometrist certifying that the person is incapable of using a traditional firearm sighting device and be accompanied by a person who is not physically disabled or legally blind, has a hunting license, and is at least 13 years of age.
Found and TPWD's website: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publication ... unt/means/
I realize that you may only be carrying it while hunting with your rifle or bow, the game warden can still bust you for it.

Sorry to rain on your parade. :sad:

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:48 pm
by TXAG_2010
CaptWoodrow10 wrote:
TXAG_2010 wrote:
AEA wrote:
cougartex wrote:With a Crimson Trace Laser (LG-312), what is the maximum distance of the laser in the daylight?

:txflag:
The problem is the daylight reduces your ability to see the beam at any great distance. If you are indoors it still works pretty well, but out on the street in a bright sunny day, for get it! You will be aiming at your hand to make sure it is still working! :smilelol5:
I agree here.

I have a CT laser on the pistol I use while hunting. Out there, the times I would need the pistol are all either in pitch black or twilight hours. When I was zeroing the laser during the day, I had to build a little "hut" to put the target in to see the laser.
For my carry pistols, I just use night sights.

But to answer your question, I wouldn't count on it working more than 15' during the day, but again, it all depends on the lighting and target.
I think I remember hearing that lasers on a hunting firearm is illegal. IIRC, you have to have some sort of letter stating that you are legaly blind and you have to be with a non-blind licensed hunter. Exact wording:
# Artificial light of any form that casts or reflects a beam of light onto or otherwise illuminates a game animal or bird may not be used as an aid to hunt, except battery-powered scoping devices that project a light or dot only inside the scope; pin sight lights on archery equipment; or laser sighting devices used by legally blind hunters, or hunters who have a documented permanent physical disability that prevents them from using traditional firearm sighting devices.
# Legal blindness is: no more than 20/200 of visual acuity in the better eye with correcting lenses or visual acuity greater than 20/200, but with a limitation in the field of vision such that the widest diameter of the visual field subtends an angle no greater than 20 degrees. Blind hunters must be assisted by a licensed hunter at least 13 years of age who is not legally blind. Blind hunters must possess a physician's signed statement attesting to legal blindness.
# A person who uses a laser sighting device because of a permanent physical disability that prevents them from using a traditional firearm sighting device must have in possession a signed statement from a physician or optometrist certifying that the person is incapable of using a traditional firearm sighting device and be accompanied by a person who is not physically disabled or legally blind, has a hunting license, and is at least 13 years of age.
Found and TPWD's website: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publication ... unt/means/
I realize that you may only be carrying it while hunting with your rifle or bow, the game warden can still bust you for it.

Sorry to rain on your parade. :sad:
Thanks for letting me know! I knew that they were illegal to use on weapons that you hunt with, but I just never really thought that they would be illegal on sidearms. It certainly makes sense.

Maybe that's a little more motivation to sell that XD40 and pick up a Glock 20...

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:06 pm
by CaptWoodrow10
Or a Kimber! OR you can go the dirty harry route. :biggrinjester:
Lasers are still great for a EDC CCW though.

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:24 pm
by TXAG_2010
CaptWoodrow10 wrote:Or a Kimber! OR you can go the dirty harry route. :biggrinjester:
Lasers are still great for a EDC CCW though.
I have a Kimber and it's by far my favorite pistol that I own. I thought about getting another one to bang up, but a (relatively) cheap pistol that holds 15 rounds of 10mm sounds like just the ticket to drag through the dust and mud with feral hogs and big cats watching.

Re: Crimson Trace Distance Daylight

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:14 am
by gigag04
TXAG_2010 wrote:
CaptWoodrow10 wrote:Or a Kimber! OR you can go the dirty harry route. :biggrinjester:
Lasers are still great for a EDC CCW though.
I have a Kimber and it's by far my favorite pistol that I own. I thought about getting another one to bang up, but a (relatively) cheap pistol that holds 15 rounds of 10mm sounds like just the ticket to drag through the dust and mud with feral hogs and big cats watching.
GL finding ammo.