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Here's a hypothetical for you guys. As someone who has volunteered my time with the Boy Scouts in the past, and will most likely do so again in the future; am I legally allowed to carry on scout trips? I'm not so worried about carrying at scout camps or at the normal meetings, but traveling a long distance with a bunch of kids who have the bladder size of a pea requires a lot of stops.
National B.S.A policy says:

"Except for law enforcement officers required to carry firearms within their jurisdiction, firearms shall not be brought on camping, hiking, backpacking, or other Scouting activities except those specifically planned for target shooting under the supervision of a currently certified BSA or National Rifle Association firearms instructor."

I know this does not constitute a 30.06 posting, but here's where it gets kinda fuzzy. As a volunteer, can the B.S.A. prevent me as a CHL holder from possessing a handgun while performing my duties as a volunteer under the employee/employer exemption by posting the "gun buster's" sign or under the above policy statement? I know that of all of the camps that I have been to, I have yet so see a valid 30.06 sign. Instead they use the typical "No guns allowed" statement. This, to me, is the definition of "Grey Area", but someone may be able to clear this up for me. (And I'm sure a few of you out there as well)

Anyone?

Just like any employee handbook, they're free to ban you from carrying with any language they choose, or no wording at all. All they have to do is say, "Sorry, you're not allowed here any longer."

chabouk wrote:Just like any employee handbook, they're free to ban you from carrying with any language they choose, or no wording at all. All they have to do is say, "Sorry, you're not allowed here any longer."

And they would break your arrow (some folks will know what I am talking about.)

To answer the question and clarify a point, you could legally carry on the trip despite the warning. Just as any employer can stop you from carrying on their property, BSA can stop you from carrying while volunteering. But, just as the only thing that the employer could do is fire you, all BSA can do is fire you. They would stop you from volunteering any more.

And break the arrow (mine is from Lodge #1, Unami Lodge, Philadelphia).

concealed means concealed.

You can always take the kids afterwards to a range

As a parent I have a responsibilty to protect my child regardless of the idiotic policy of the BSA. I don't officially volunteer but I attend all the campouts and trips. BSA headquarters in Irving is posted 30.06 and I refuse to go there.

Concealed means Concealed. I do not advocate violating laws, but in this case it's just BSA's policy which isn't worth the paper it's printed on except in locations where they actually have a 30.06 sign posted.

What's a shame is that back in the day when I was in Boy Scouts (20+ years ago), I earned Rifle & Shotgun merit badge as well as NRA medals at the rifle range at summer camp. You would think that the organization would be a little bit more second-amendment friendly.

MojoTexas wrote:What's a shame is that back in the day when I was in Boy Scouts (20+ years ago), I earned Rifle & Shotgun merit badge as well as NRA medals at the rifle range at summer camp. You would think that the organization would be a little bit more second-amendment friendly.

I joined Scouting in 1975. I began shooting .22 rifles at summer camp, and progressed to shooting clay at the skeet range. I was eleven when I started! There were responsible adults who taught me respect for firearms. You'd think that responsible CHL holders would be welcomed, just as the 'instructors' at camp were.

Yeah I might add that I was an Eagle Scout and member of the Order of the Arrow. My son is still a toddler, and I anticipate him getting into Scouting in about 5 or 6 years.

I'm... Was Tejas 72, vigil honor and founder's recipient. Eagle as well. I moved and havent gotten back into it yet. This no guns policy probably won't keep me away though. It's too bad a organization such as this would impose such idiotic regulations, but then again it is run by bureaucrats.

In full disclosure, I am and Eagle Scout. In addition, I am currently a Cub Master of a Scout Pack and an Asst. Scout of a Scout troop.

I have read the Scout policy on guns. It is against the rules to carry?!?!?!

I have made the decision that I will carry, as I need the ability to protect my children and myself.

If I get caught, they may tell me to get lost. It would break my heart, as I love the Scouts.

However, there seems to be and unwritten rule that you can take a gun to camp. I have asked some of the officials at several camps. LPSR, BTSR, and BDSR to name a few. They said they would lock my pistol up for my stay.

I like my gun on me, so I have not accepted the offer.

God bless the BSA!!!